Young performance graph #2

[Panthercougar68]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

No, it doesn't. Plenty of great college players just in the NFL.

Bullshit, he’s escaped tackles with nfl level players in the sec. It’s not gospel but counts for something.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Bullshit, he’s escaped tackles with nfl level players in the sec. It’s not gospel but counts for something.

It counted for a Heisman and a #1 overall pick. Now do it in the NFL. Because plenty of both of the latter have failed to pan out in the NFL.

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

got me confused with carpanfan96 homie

My bad

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think the whole selling point on Bryce was how mentally ready he was and how smart he was and how he'd be outsmarting defenses left and right. Because his physical toolset was always marginal.

And I've seen no reason to believe that isn't still valid.

It never should have been translated into thinking that he'd play like a ten year veteran from his first snap though.

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

He’s got film doing it before at Bama but none of that counts apparently.

I watched him do it in the NFL, it just usually results in a throw away or incompletion so it’s not a memorable highlight.

[hepcat]

Keep this stat and let’s compare it to the stats after the season. Without improvement I will be concerned. Honestly they should be trying to trade for a WR.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, hepcat said:

Keep this stat and let’s compare it to the stats after the season. Without improvement I will be concerned. Honestly they should be trying to trade for a WR.

They should be giving up future assets to fix a problem right now in a season that was always going to have a learning curve anyway?

You really think that makes sense?

[Davidson Deac II]

8 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I just wish I could see some semblance of downfield accuracy. 

The throw to Mingo toward the end of the game was perfect.  He threw it to a spot just before Mingo started his break and put it on the money at 20 plus yards in the air.  And Mingo ran a great route.

Young has a lot of work to do, but I disagree with those who say there are no positive signs. 

[mrcompletely11]

7 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If given a choice between Bryce avoiding sacks because he is strong and agile, or avoiding them because he gets rid of the ball quick, I really hope he can learn to get rid of it quick.  

We traded all that capital for that?  

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

The throw to Mingo toward the end of the game was perfect.  He threw it to a spot just before Mingo started his break and put it on the money at 20 plus yards in the air.  And Mingo ran a great route.

Young has a lot of work to do, but I disagree with those who say there are no positi

Edited September 21, 2023 by mrcompletely11

[tukafan21]

13 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Bullshit, he’s escaped tackles with nfl level players in the sec. It’s not gospel but counts for something.

Yea... I hate this argument regardless of the player/position.

The "well they did this against NFL level players in the SEC" is the most flawed argument ever.

The SEC had 62 players drafted this year.  From that, 20 of them came from Alabama and Georgia (10 each) with another 12 coming from Florida and LSU (6 each), with Auburn, Tennessee, and South Carolina having 5 each.

I'm not going to go through each team and count out how many players were defensive, but obviously you can assume about half the players drafted were on offense, give or take.  Then consider that there are a few more players who aren't NFL draft eligible yet and are already that good, plus others who will be good enough in a few years but aren't there yet.

So realistically, outside of 2 or maybe a 3rd team in the SEC each season, most teams have either none or at most 1-3 NFL quality level players on their defense in a given season, and even then, it's what, maybe a 25% chance that they're even a player who would be a pass rusher?  (when talking about Bryce "escaping tackles from NFL level players in college")

Yes, the SEC is by far and away the best conference in college football and yes, it prepares you for the NFL better than others.  

But the "they did this against NFL level players in the SEC" is just a fallacy as they really aren't performing against NFL level players most of the time, just really good college players.

Edited September 21, 2023 by tukafan21

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I watched him do it in the NFL, it just usually results in a throw away or incompletion so it’s not a memorable highlight.

Or a strip sack

[hepcat]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They should be giving up future assets to fix a problem right now in a season that was always going to have a learning curve anyway?

You really think that makes sense?

Well if Bryce is getting hurt because he has to hold the ball and take hits because no one is getting open then yea it makes sense 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, hepcat said:

Well if Bryce is getting hurt because he has to hold the ball and take hits because no one is getting open then yea it makes sense 

There's this thing called throwing the ball away...