Well, John Fox looks like a idiot now...

[CRA]

If Winfield had not fell, that had INT all over it. It worked out but the decision to throw that was what has kept Jake in trouble this year.

well, that was a classic jump ball to Smitty.....that is how Jake made his living. Jake early this year wasn't throwing the ball up so Smitty could fight for them.....Smitty literally was the defender b/c of severe underthrows. Carolina likes that matchup with Smith going up....

[MaineManPanther]

it isn't about arguing it....he wasn't a starter. He was deep on the WR depth chart....he was a Dwyane Jarrett....someone they had hope could move up. See this Gardner reach just explains how absurd Fox's flaw is. In all his years in Carolina.....he has never once replaced anyone of his starters purely to get better production. He will make a move if injury forces it........Fox has been here TOO LONG for that never to of occured. That is his biggest flaw. It isn't that he prefers vets over rookies....once he commits to a a starter he simply will ride them out until the end of a season. That ain't coaching but simply being stubborn and refusing to adapt.

Rodney Peete was replaced by Delhomme.

Davis was not injured enough to be benched soley on injuries. Foster had better production. If injuries were serious enough to be a factor he wouldve benched Davis earlier, if injuries was serious enough he wouldn't share carries after switching to Foster.

The problem is very few times does a backup (not starter sucking) show to be better during the season. Thats what the offseason and camp is for.

Help me out here, give me some instances in Fox's time here that the backup was clearly better and shoudlve been started in the season. Ive heard moore, and Godfry. Are there any more? Or is that it?

[DaCityKats]

i think jarrett would be a threat in the red zone.jump ball all day.

[DaCityKats]

If Winfield had not fell, that had INT all over it. It worked out but the decision to throw that was what has kept Jake in trouble this year.

even if he did not fall, he had a bad position on the ball.so i think smitty had him reguardless

[CRA]

Rodney Peete was replaced by Delhomme.

Davis was not injured enough to be benched soley on injuries. Foster had better production. If injuries were serious enough to be a factor he wouldve benched Davis earlier, if injuries was serious enough he wouldn't share carries after switching to Foster.

The problem is very few times does a backup (not starter sucking) show to be better during the season. Thats what the offseason and camp is for.

Help me out here, give me some instances in Fox's time here that the backup was clearly better and shoudlve been started in the season. Ive heard moore, and Godfry. Are there any more? Or is that it?

Sure Davis was.....he was falling apart and was done. He was battling knee injuries that entire year and couldn't perform.

I'll give you Peete if you want it.... Hard to say Fox committed to him that season when he only played one half of football for him either. Job was most likely up for grabs and no one was locked into a job.

Like I said, name me one coach who has been with a ball club 7 years(or close to that) that hasn't made a midseason change based on better talent elsewhere on the roster at some point during there tenture - not caused by injury?

[Sword]

Rodney Peete was replaced by Delhomme.

Help me out here, give me some instances in Fox's time here that the backup was clearly better and shoudlve been started in the season. Ive heard moore, and Godfry. Are there any more? Or is that it?

Keeping Deshaun DeFumbles Foster starting over Deangelo Williams?

[MaineManPanther]

Sure Davis was.....he was falling apart and was done. He was battling knee injuries that entire year and couldn't perform.

I'll give you Peete if you want it.... Hard to say Fox committed to him that season when he only played one half of football for him either. Job was most likely up for grabs and no one was locked into a job.

Like I said, name me one coach who has been with a ball club 7 years(or close to that) that hasn't made a midseason change based on better talent elsewhere on the roster at some point during there tenture - not caused by injury?

That question doesnt work. Your saying if a coach coaches on a team for seven years there has to be instances under your situation. Even if Fox hasnt switched, that doesnt mean there were instaces were he clear cut shouldve.

Moore- This one doesnt work under your instance, Moore showed nothing to suggest he was a better talent then Jake. The only reason they wanted Moore is not because of his talent but becuase Jake sucked so much. Theres a diffrenence

Godfry-Martin showed he could be a better talent. But Godfry was then placed back in and has played very well. So in this instance Fox didnt ingore better talent , considring Godfry playing well.

I could see your argument better if you gave more instances, theres seven years to work with. I do have my problems with the above two, but thers got to be some more you can find.