Trade speculation: Hunter Renfrow

[HardcoreHokie]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

No more in season trades at this point. Polish the turd we currently have and quit trying to add more corn kernels to it.

Just fuging draft some actually talented WR's in an offseason for fug's sake.

Terrace Marshall Jr and Jonathan Mingo are *extremely* talented WR’s and are coming from elite WR college programs.

They just need to perform.

[kungfoodude]

30 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Terrace Marshall Jr and Jonathan Mingo are *extremely* talented WR’s and are coming from elite WR college programs.

They just need to perform.

TMJ is a flat out bust, IMO. 

Mingo I still have some hopes for.

Being successful at WR in the NFL is about the ability to get separation. There are multiple ways to skin that cat but the bottom line is we don't really have any of those guys on the team other than Chark. That is a big problem. That also means the FO is not evaluating that position well at all.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Being successful at WR in the NFL is about the ability to get separation...

...or being able to fight for the ball when you don't.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

...or being able to fight for the ball when you don't.

You can't throw 50/50 balls consistently. If you aren't open, you aren't gonna see the ball that much. In a desperate situation, sure.

[CRA]

2 hours ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Terrace Marshall Jr and Jonathan Mingo are *extremely* talented WR’s and are coming from elite WR college programs.

They just need to perform.

Ole Miss an elite WR program?  

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

You can't throw 50/50 balls consistently. If you aren't open, you aren't gonna see the ball that much. In a desperate situation, sure.

No, but you want guys who can catch them when you have to.

And you will have to.

[ForJimmy]

42 minutes ago, CRA said:

Ole Miss an elite WR program?  

They have a couple big ones in Metcalf and Brown, but still far from an elite program. LSU is the best one JJ, Chase, Beckham, Landry, Chark etc, but Ohio St is pumping them out now as well. 

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

No, but you want guys who can catch them when you have to.

And you will have to.

Yeah but if you can't get open that won't matter.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but if you can't get open that won't matter.

Generally no, but you have to be able to do that at some point.

[HardcoreHokie]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Ole Miss an elite WR program?  

AJ Brown and DK Metcalf are pretty damn good. That’s who Johnathan Mingo practiced with every day.  Ole Miss certainly has been doing well with WR’s lately.

And my quote also included LSU (you left that out) which is arguably the best program for receivers the past decade.  Terrace Marshall Jr played with some greats and I personally think he’ll develop into a good pro.

[kungfoodude]

40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Generally no, but you have to be able to do that at some point.

I don't disagree but if you can't get separation then it will never matter if you can or can't.

Hence why I made that statement. You need to be able to get separation to be an effective weapon in the current NFL. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't disagree but if you can't get separation then it will never matter if you can or can't.

Hence why I made that statement. You need to be able to get separation to be an effective weapon in the current NFL. 

Understood though it isn't always on the player. Sometimes it's scheme (like with Joe Brady) other times it can even be the quarterback.

Mind you, I wouldn't put it on Young for us, but I'm sure you remember how Michael Vick's Falcon receivers were terrible...until someone else started throwing them the ball.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Understood though it isn't always on the player. Sometimes it's scheme (like with Joe Brady) other times it can even be the quarterback.

Mind you, I wouldn't put it on Young for us, but I'm sure you remember how Michael Vick's Falcon receivers were terrible...until someone else started throwing them the ball.

I don't think it's an accident that the only player we had getting open with any sort of consistency in Game 1 was Theilen. 

We have 16 games left so I hope they can prove me wrong but right now this WR corps probably strikes fear in basically no NFL defense.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think it's an accident that the only player we had getting open with any sort of consistency in Game 1 was Theilen. 

We have 16 games left so I hope they can prove me wrong but right now this WR corps probably strikes fear in basically no NFL defense.

Well, given the other choices were a rookie and a guy who's still a question mark...

Maybe Chark makes a difference.

Edited September 16, 2023 by Mr. Scot