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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Commanders are doing some very un-Rivera things in short clock situations. Both games they've gotten the ball deep in their own territory right before half and been very aggressive. Classic Ron hands the ball off and jogs to the locker room in those situations. But, you couldn't beat the smile off Ron's face after the game yesterday with a baseball bat so whatever is going on he seems very okay with it.

Maybe he's finally got an OC not named Turner that he trusts more.

Could wind up biting him on the ass though.

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17 minutes ago, GhostWhispah said:

Yes that's what having a big arm can do and hope it will continue cause it would be great having a Buckeyes QB to finally break the failure rate once they turn pro. However, i would still take Bryce even if he stunk it up tonight cause I followed enough college games to know Bryce will be a winner in this league. Maybe not for the Panthers who tend to dump them due to their impatience. So was it Baker's fault he struggled for us yet he playing great now for the Bucs?  We tend to go thru QB like swiss cheese while losing most of our draft capitol in the process needed to rebuild this team. 

https://www.mlive.com/sports/2018/01/tom_bradys_greatest_michigan_m.html

I wouldn't be so quick to call Baker great.  He is an average QB who can be streaky.  He was very hot and cold in Cleveland and has played two terrible defenses so far this year.  Don't get me wrong he is much better than he looked here and I thought he would be solid for us, but Rhule was too terrible of a HC to get a good look.  If Bryce is the guy he will flash enough in Carolina for us to continue his development.  Teams are a lot more patient with number 1 overall drafted QBs than they would be with journeymen vets and rightfully so.  

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12 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I wouldn't be so quick to call Baker great.  He is an average QB who can be streaky.  He was very hot and cold in Cleveland and has played two terrible defenses so far this year.  Don't get me wrong he is much better than he looked here and I thought he would be solid for us, but Rhule was too terrible of a HC to get a good look.  If Bryce is the guy he will flash enough in Carolina for us to continue his development.  Teams are a lot more patient with number 1 overall drafted QBs than they would be with journeymen vets and rightfully so.  

Never said Baker was great but he went thru bad coordinators like swiss cheese so there was no consistently to adapt but the only game he got to start for the Rams he won it on prime time with a great HC/coordinator in McCoy who knows what he's doing. And he pass for over 300 to carry the Bucs yesterday. Ever thought that had we drafted CJ and he failed to pass for 300 for us after 2 games while Bryce got those 30p yards game. I bet you the fans here including the clown troll would be screaming we picked the wrong QB again.

We got the right QB and if he fails early on, it will NOT be on him but on the team and fans for being impatient. He is the next Brady as far as I am concern.

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1 minute ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I wish that kid nothing but the best. People made him out to be dumb as rocks pre draft. It was pathetic. 

Having a low S2 score is no big deal unless you play the QB position that NEEDS to read and process plays in real time. Trey was still struggling with Kyles complex playbook even tho he was physically gifted with a cannon arm. With that said, i hold the s2 test in high regard when it comes to the QB ONLY, not meatheads who only task is to block or tackle. Bryce had the highest S2 score for a QB yet it means nothing for some fans unless he can pass for 300 plus yards.

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

They better get rid of Ron because Bieniemy will get a HC job somewhere if this continues.  

Hasn't that narrative been around forever though?

How many times have we seen somebody predict that this is the year Eric Bieniemy gets a head coaching job...only to see it not happen?

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hasn't that narrative been around forever though?

How many times have we seen somebody predict that this is the year Eric Bieniemy gets a head coaching job...only to see it not happen?

That's the whole point of him getting out from under Andy Reid.  That was always the excuse.  "It's just Reid's offense."  Well if he gets the Commanders offense playing great with a 5th round 2nd year QB then yeah he has a high chance of getting a HC job.  

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2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

That's the whole point of him getting out from under Andy Reid.  That was always the excuse.  "It's just Reid's offense."  Well if he gets the Commanders offense playing great with a 5th round 2nd year QB then yeah he has a high chance of getting a HC job.  

This. If he continues to do well away from Reid under a defensive head coach he becomes a much more attractive HC candidate IMO.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Maybe he's finally got an OC not named Turner that he trusts more.

Could wind up biting him on the ass though.

Rivera is in a lose-lose situation and it’s his fault. He’s got head coaches at both coordinators because he’s not a good head coach.

If the offense sucks, Rivera’s gone.  If the offense shines like yesterday, Bieniemey becomes the HC.  That was the plan all along in Washington, IMO.

 

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This. If he continues to do well away from Reid under a defensive head coach he becomes a much more attractive HC candidate IMO.

Imagine being the team with the top pick and having a chance to get Williams (who is getting compared to Mahomes) and pairing him with a HC that helped develop Mahomes.  Again I'm not sure anyone should try to draft "the next Mahomes" because the things he does shouldn't be done in the NFL, but some franchise is going to be all over that opportunity.  

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17 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

That's the whole point of him getting out from under Andy Reid.  That was always the excuse.  "It's just Reid's offense."  Well if he gets the Commanders offense playing great with a 5th round 2nd year QB then yeah he has a high chance of getting a HC job.  

Valid, and I'm pretty sure nobody is gonna attribute any offensive success on the Commanders part to Ron Rivera.

14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This. If he continues to do well away from Reid under a defensive head coach he becomes a much more attractive HC candidate IMO.

Agreed, with the one caveat that a lot of the talk has been it's not his skill set that's been keeping him from getting those jobs. It's other factors.

Does this mitigate any of that?

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15 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Rivera is in a lose-lose situation and it’s his fault. He’s got head coaches at both coordinators because he’s not a good head coach.

If the offense sucks, Rivera’s gone.  If the offense shines like yesterday, Bieniemey becomes the HC.  That was the plan all along in Washington, IMO.

I'd say that's a real possibility.

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