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Teddy Vibes

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TheCasillas Grand Master

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Got it but saying he broke the rules is a bit deceiving.  He made the play when he saw it.  Hopefully bryce learns from it instead of processing rules and what players can and cannot do or should or should not do.  Franks wording in that tweet just seems off to me

the tweet is vague... Frank breaks it down very thoroughly in the presser. The tweet is poo if you ask me.

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Thanks, Ill check out the pc if I get time. 

 

Just came across as "well bates wasnt even supposed to be there so its not bryces fault" which is comical and scary at the same time.  

He actually states that it would his own fault (frank) bc they didnt prepare Bryce for players potentially cheating out of position. He mentioned that if he would have prepared Bryce for that we would have had taken more shots.

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Just now, TheCasillas said:

He actually states that it would his own fault (frank) bc they didnt prepare Bryce for players potentially cheating out of position. He mentioned that if he would have prepared Bryce for that we would have had taken more shots.

I mean, okay I guess but this all star staff has only been coaching him since may so maybe they might have brought that up before the first game.   This is the nfl players make plays.  Just reads like an excuse but like I said I will listen to the presser in about 15 for better clarity.

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5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I mean, okay I guess but this all star staff has only been coaching him since may so maybe they might have brought that up before the first game.   This is the nfl players make plays.  Just reads like an excuse but like I said I will listen to the presser in about 15 for better clarity.

take how you will and mold it the way you want .... but typically players who dont follow the play call dont stay on the field for long.

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Can't agree on the Teddy vibes.

Once Bryce saw the opportunity, he throwed to people that got open or was about to get open.

Teddy never throwed to a contested situation, even if the WR was about to get open, heck, he could even see an open player and still went for the checkdown.

Still remember when a game was on the line, and instead of going for the 8 yard contested play which could convert, he threw the checkdown for 2-3 yards.... on a third or fourth down. 

Do Bryce need to make completion on long throws, yes and its a bit of a concern. But its only been one game.  

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57 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

What does this mean

Basically Bates was either given freedom, or took liberty on his own to jump those routes, when the actual defensive call required him to be deeper than he was. 
 

He gambled. And he gambled well. 
 

So film probably indicated he was supposed to be deep center, but that he cheated up instinctually. 

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1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

I mean, this frankly sounds like something Matt Rhule spews out.  Bijan Robinson also broke the rules of running on that TD.  He wasn't supposed to juke people out.  If he would have just run freaking straight the guys would have made the play. 

The Falcons D was playing to jump the routes over the middle because they believed that is what Frank/Bryce would be doing.  That's football.  And it's frankly predictable.  Most knew and projected going in Frank/Bryce would keep it short and in front of the safeties.  That's not breaking the rules.  That's just good defense. 

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3 hours ago, Newtcase said:

To be clear, I'm not bashing Bryce.  I'm squarely in the wait and see crowd, just want to see him improve week over week.

However, these comparisons to Manning, Burrow and other accomplished qbs that struggled are just ridiculous.  You could much more easily build a list of QBs that ended up being terrible with comparable 1st game stats.

Example: Jimmy Clausen 19/33 182y 1TD 1INT

Now, I'm not saying he's Jimmy Clausen any more than his first game stats say he's Peyton Manning or Joe Burrow.  I'm just saying these comparisons....at all...are a ridiculous way to support an argument.  Let the rook cook, we'll all know in time.

The point of the comparisons is to show that it’s meaningless it’s not to say he’s going to be a hall of famer because he had a rough debut. 

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