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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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1 minute ago, RoaringRiot said:

It's called common sense. 

a seemingly large percentage of the fanbase seems either checked out, frustrated or disconnected from the team.

 

Bro he aint talking just about the burns situation.  He is either interacting with mouth breathers or is trolling.  I suspect both.  Common sense my ass

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20 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

I haven't spoken one word to Josh about this Tweet, but it’s pretty easy to infer that he is talking about the dark cloud that the Burns situation is casting over what should be an incredible weekend. Burns is the main narrative and discussion point when it should 100% be on the hype of a new QB, coaching staff, and season. He isn't knocking fans. 

The Burns situation in and of itself probably isn't the issue. It's death by a thousand cuts. It's a historical trend.

The organization can't seem to get through a single season when there isn't some personnel blunder that takes on epic publicity and proportion because they have simply accumulated over the years and years. Regardless of the rationale that some of this is on the player and his agent, the casual fan base only knows the guy isn't on the field come Sunday afternoon.

Kerry Collins, Rae Carruth, Sean Gilmore, George Seifert, Jason Peter, Tim Biakabatuka, DeShaun Foster, the obvious mishandling of Jake's extension, Steve Smith's unceremonious kick to the curb, Rivera stubbornly refusing to bench Cam with an injury, Jimmy Clausen, letting Peppers walk, Eric Shelton.... and the list goes on. Again, not all necessarily the team's fault, but to the casual fan who doesn't follow message boards, watch the talking heads on TV and just sits down Sunday afternoon to see the game- this is an organizational issue.

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2 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Kerry Collins, Rae Carruth, Sean Gilmore, George Seifert, Jason Peter, Tim Biakabatuka, DeShaun Foster, the obvious mishandling of Jake's extension, Steve Smith's unceremonious kick to the curb, Rivera stubbornly refusing to bench Cam with an injury, Jimmy Clausen, letting Peppers walk, Eric Shelton.... and the list goes on. Again, not all necessarily the team's fault, but to the casual fan who doesn't follow message boards, watch the talking heads on TV and just sits down Sunday afternoon to see the game- this is an organizational issue.

There isn’t a single team in the nfl who does have these types of stains…  it isn’t a panthers problem… it’s a professional sport franchise problem

 

we as fans expect franchises to make perfect decisions every time… when the odds are minimal that they will. It’s not OUR franchise.. this is regular occurrence to every professional team in every sport

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There isn’t a single team in the nfl who does have these types of stains…  it isn’t a panthers problem… it’s a professional sport franchise problem

 

we as fans expect franchises to make perfect decisions every time… when the odds are minimal that they will. It’s not OUR franchise.. this is regular occurrence to every professional team in every sport

Also, what the hell did Tim Biakabutuka & Kerry Collins do to frustrate you?

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Just now, Anybodyhome said:

The Burns situation in and of itself probably isn't the issue. It's death by a thousand cuts. It's a historical trend.

The organization can't seem to get through a single season when there isn't some personnel blunder that takes on epic publicity and proportion because they have simply accumulated over the years and years. Regardless of the rationale that some of this is on the player and his agent, the casual fan base only knows the guy isn't on the field come Sunday afternoon.

Kerry Collins, Rae Carruth, Sean Gilmore, George Seifert, Jason Peter, Tim Biakabatuka, DeShaun Foster, the obvious mishandling of Jake's extension, Steve Smith's unceremonious kick to the curb, Rivera stubbornly refusing to bench Cam with an injury, Jimmy Clausen, letting Peppers walk, Eric Shelton.... and the list goes on. Again, not all necessarily the team's fault, but to the casual fan who doesn't follow message boards, watch the talking heads on TV and just sits down Sunday afternoon to see the game- this is an organizational issue.

The totality of the frustration is understandable: the team hasn't been successful since the 2015 Super Bowl run which is now eight (going on nine) years ago. However, it's not like all of these things are linked by anything other than it happening to a changing organization. I don't know if it's healthy to effectively be processing this the same way as somebody that gets into a new relationship after a divorce and stays mad at the new relationship for things that had happened in the previous one.

We just got a new owner in July 2018. He said he was going to focus on the business side of things for that first year and trusted football people to football. Rivera got canned after going 5-7 in 2019, and this next part is where I have nothing but agreement and understanding for the criticism Tepper received here: he didn't fire Hurney. Instead, he consulted with Hurney to pick Rhule in January 2020 only to fire Hurney in December 2020. Then there's the whole not firing Rhule before last season, again valid.

At this particular point in Tepper's ownership, I personally feel like this is a point where we can accurately begin to assess folks. Fitterer has had some things happen that he's been blamed for despite Rhule clearly being the shot-caller, but now he has his coach (Reich) and his QB (Young). This is the closest thing to Fitterer's team that he's had since Rhule was let go.

Let's enjoy the ride and see where we end up. 😄

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52 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

I haven't spoken one word to Josh about this Tweet, but it’s pretty easy to infer that he is talking about the dark cloud that the Burns situation is casting over what should be an incredible weekend. Burns is the main narrative and discussion point when it should 100% be on the hype of a new QB, coaching staff, and season. He isn't knocking fans. 

Agree with this 100%. We were at a point where we for a short while could look past previous mishaps and be excited and focus on the new coaching staff and Bryce. Then the whole Burns fiasco (putting 100% blame on the front office for this one) happened. I’m still excited, but it has put a damper on things no doubt.

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53 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

It's called common sense. 

Common sense is having at least another sweet tea along with the one that comes with the Big Bo Box for all of those biscuits. Josh is trying to kill y'all today. 😮

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20 minutes ago, Icege said:

Common sense is having at least another sweet tea along with the one that comes with the Big Bo Box for all of those biscuits. Josh is trying to kill y'all today. 😮

You're right. I take back my other posts. He’s a total idiot

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1 hour ago, Anybodyhome said:

The Burns situation in and of itself probably isn't the issue. It's death by a thousand cuts. It's a historical trend.

The organization can't seem to get through a single season when there isn't some personnel blunder that takes on epic publicity and proportion because they have simply accumulated over the years and years. Regardless of the rationale that some of this is on the player and his agent, the casual fan base only knows the guy isn't on the field come Sunday afternoon.

Kerry Collins, Rae Carruth, Sean Gilmore, George Seifert, Jason Peter, Tim Biakabatuka, DeShaun Foster, the obvious mishandling of Jake's extension, Steve Smith's unceremonious kick to the curb, Rivera stubbornly refusing to bench Cam with an injury, Jimmy Clausen, letting Peppers walk, Eric Shelton.... and the list goes on. Again, not all necessarily the team's fault, but to the casual fan who doesn't follow message boards, watch the talking heads on TV and just sits down Sunday afternoon to see the game- this is an organizational issue.

a great example of how the fanbase largely sensationalizes things uniform to every team to points of hysteria

“ugh this is it, they mishandled Eric Shelton, this is the reason why we’re not a serious team, I wish I followed a professional team ugh ugh ugh”

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39 minutes ago, Growl said:

a great example of how the fanbase largely sensationalizes things uniform to every team to points of hysteria

“ugh this is it, they mishandled Eric Shelton, this is the reason why we’re not a serious team, I wish I followed a professional team ugh ugh ugh”

Lol I can’t believe dude listed Eric Shelton. I completely missed that. 

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