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The Athletic: Insight to Brian Burns Contract

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6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Fitterer is mismanaging this situation but if he makes that Burns trade with the Rams he's effectively submitted his resignation. 95% chance he's not here to even see the names called for those first rounders. No owner is going to give a GM who was involved in the Matt Rhule fiasco a free two seasons to wait around to see the results of a few lottery tickets that might not even be as valuable anymore when they are finally ready to be redeemed.

Drives me nuts some don’t understand this. Fitt would almost be guaranteeing a losing season this year.

Also, just because a trade offer is declined, it doesn’t mean it’s a signal that player gets whatever they want. It just means the org doesn’t want to make the trade and wants a shot a working a longer deal. Both sides still need to be reasonable.

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2 minutes ago, Castavar said:

As I've said all along, 2 firsts was an overpay for Burns. We should've done the deal. Now we get this. Fitt ain't it.

Those two 1st rounders would have probably both been top 5 picks as Kupp is seeing a specialist and Stafford's spinal problems. Was a dumb decision then not to take t hose picks, and it's still a dumb decision now.

Neither Fitt nor Frank have until 2026 to see if those picks pan out.

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5 minutes ago, Castavar said:

As I've said all along, 2 firsts was an overpay for Burns. We should've done the deal. Now we get this. Fitt ain't it.

Those two 1st rounders would have probably both been top 5 picks as Kupp is seeing a specialist and Stafford's spinal problems. Was a dumb decision then not to take t hose picks, and it's still a dumb decision now.

Imagine trading your homegrown talent and best defensive player for some unknown picks.

 

The thought process within this fanbase is baffling. I truly don't understand some of these comments. Go to any other sub and ask them to trade their best defensive player for some picks and see how that goes...

 

With a straight face you're suggesting we trade our best defensive player who's just entering his prime?

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

The Rams deal was a good offer, but keep in mind future and even further future firsts have much less value to GMs than current firsts. 

True.  But those future first are more in line for a franchise taking the #1 overall QB in this years draft than some other teams.   Those are assets to build around him.  Which will be the focus in the upcoming seasons. 

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1 hour ago, Smithers said:

For 23M, he better get 15 sacks and not get taken out of the game on run plays by tight ends. 

look at Crosby's stats vs. Burns'. Burns is a better player, that's just the going rate for pass rushers. Watt/Bosa are up in the 27/28 range and I don't think Burns has earned that but I'd do 24-25. Would be great to keep him for less but pass rushers get paid, and that market gets reset every year. 

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4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Imagine trading your homegrown talent and best defensive player for some unknown picks.

 

The thought process within this fanbase is baffling. I truly don't understand some of these comments. Go to any other sub and ask them to trade their best defensive player for some picks and see how that goes...

 

With a straight face you're suggesting we trade our best defensive player who's just entering his prime?

 

 

 

For two first rds, I’d do that in a New York minute given the situation of not having a qb 

I like burns but two things and I’ll get blasted for it

1. Terrible against the run 

2. Not there in big games, yes, I know he was ‘the only panthers player the opposing team needed to scheme for’…all the more reason to send him and take those picks to build the roster 

‘hindsight is 20 20’ but he is nowhere near the top 3 edges for that money and if you had a team dumb enough to offer, 2 ones, you take it 

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8 minutes ago, CRA said:

True.  But those future first are more in line for a franchise taking the #1 overall QB in this years draft than some other teams.   Those are assets to build around him.  Which will be the focus in the upcoming seasons. 

True but it’s a slippery slope. Without Burns we would probably reach on a pass rusher in the 2nd leaving Young without Mingo. I mean if our front 7 looks questionable now, imagine it without Burns. Those Rams picks can’t be used until the next two drafts.

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5 minutes ago, t96 said:

look at Crosby's stats vs. Burns'. Burns is a better player, that's just the going rate for pass rushers. Watt/Bosa are up in the 27/28 range and I don't think Burns has earned that but I'd do 24-25. Would be great to keep him for less but pass rushers get paid, and that market gets reset every year. 

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