REPORT: Panthers and Brian Burns not at all close to extension

[tukafan21]

32 minutes ago, Icege said:

If he holds out it's going to cost him his ~$900k game check. I don't see that happening either.

If he sits out, it's not for leverage in negotiations, it's to preserve his health while waiting on a contract he is likely expecting around $100 million guaranteed.

He has to show up by about week 10 anyways to get the season towards FA.

If someone said losing up to $10 million would be your best path to guaranteeing $100 million, I don't think you'd worry about losing that 10

[Jackie Lee]

[ForJimmy]

13 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

If he sits out, it's not for leverage in negotiations, it's to preserve his health while waiting on a contract he is likely expecting around $100 million guaranteed.

He has to show up by about week 10 anyways to get the season towards FA.

If someone said losing up to $10 million would be your best path to guaranteeing $100 million, I don't think you'd worry about losing that 10

So to be clear you think he won’t play tomorrow? 

[tukafan21]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

So to be clear you think he won’t play tomorrow? 

Not unless they come to a deal before the game

I could be wrong of course, not like I have any insider insight into the situation, just a gut feeling.

[PantherMan89]

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[PantherMan89]

 

Edited September 9, 2023 by PantherMan89

[Leaky_Faucet]

I don’t know anything either way but I would be surprised is he does not play. First, he loses around $900,000. Second, you take your distraction to the next level which impacts your teammates and staff. This tends to make people a little less understanding.

[Beast_3000]

Latest reports are saying he is expected to play, which I am thankful for. This is going to come back to bite us in the butt. I may be in the minority here but Burns  has played out of position his entire career here and excelled. At edge he’s gonna put up monster numbers. If he gets to 17 sacks and challenges for the sack lead this year Burns is going to want Bosa + money not 28 million a year. 
 

I don’t see why Burns wouldn’t be able to flirt with 17 sacks playing his natural position while Houston and Barno line up on the opposite side. His initial burst is unreal. 

[tukafan21]

7 minutes ago, Beast_3000 said:

Latest reports are saying he is expected to play, which I am thankful for. This is going to come back to bite us in the butt. I may be in the minority here but Burns  has played out of position his entire career here and excelled. At edge he’s gonna put up monster numbers. If he gets to 17 sacks and challenges for the sack lead this year Burns is going to want Bosa + money not 28 million a year. 
 

I don’t see why Burns wouldn’t be able to flirt with 17 sacks playing his natural position while Houston and Barno line up on the opposite side. His initial burst is unreal. 

That's exactly what I've been saying and why I said going into the season with him playing out the contract shouldn't be an option.  If he puts up 15+ sacks, we're not getting him for a penny less than what Bosa got, because he knows someone would pay that on the open market.

Every day he doesn't have a new contract I become more open to the idea of trading him, particularly since if he starts hot, his price is only going to go up and we can't get a deal with whatever he wants at this point.

We're at the point where my main hope is we get a long term deal done before the game tomorrow, but if that can't happen, I kinda just want him to sit and we decide to trade him, I don't like him playing out the year, it won't end well for us.

[therealmjl]

30 minutes ago, PantherMan89 said:

 

Our front office is just mind blowing 

[1v0]

How about a crazy thought? Both sides want to wait/ agreed to wait how the first game plays out. If he wrecks shop we will lean more towards his demand, of he is still only very good and situationally great, they meet more towards the front offices offer.

I believe Burns will be a long time Panther and he will experience much better years in the future of this team, than what he has to go trough on the past.

Let's bring them Birds down to earth!

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, 1v0 said:

How about a crazy thought? Both sides want to wait/ agreed to wait how the first game plays out. If he wrecks shop we will lean more towards his demand, of he is still only very good and situationally great, they meet more towards the front offices offer.

I believe Burns will be a long time Panther and he will experience much better years in the future of this team, than what he has to go trough on the past.

Let's bring them Birds down to earth!

If that was the case, Burns would have been upbeat all week instead of pouting and his family wouldn't be tweeting about him being upset right now.

[1v0]

7 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

If that was the case, Burns would have been upbeat all week instead of pouting and his family wouldn't be tweeting about him being upset right now.

Why? They are upset, because their demands are not met (disrespect). The team wants some more proof, that he will take the next step and he is worth what they demand.

I don't think I paintet a realistic scenario, but I am confident he will play and sign a contract with the Panthers.

Edited September 10, 2023 by 1v0

[tukafan21]

6 minutes ago, 1v0 said:

Why? They are upset, because their demands are not met (disrespect). The team wants some more proof, that he will take the next step and he is worth what they demand.

I don't think I paintet a realistic scenario, but I am confident he will play and sign a contract with the Panthers.

Because I don't think either side would be willing to risk pre-agreeing on that kind of money and decision on the results of a single game.

Particularly because it could set up an ugly situation where Burns played well but didn't get any sacks or TFL, which very much can happen with a pass rusher.  He could get double teamed like crazy while others wreck havoc, which would be of credit to him and his agents would argue it, but the team would argue that he had no sacks.

It would only set up a potentially ugly fight come Monday, just wouldn't make sense for any side of this to want to do that.

Edited September 10, 2023 by tukafan21