REPORT: Panthers and Brian Burns not at all close to extension

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Anything thats considered unlikely to be earned would get added as a bonus to the next year's salary. 

It's the incentives that are considered ltbe that need to be included in the cap for the current season. 

 

 

hmmm, that's interesting.

But if we're saying what is likely vs unlikely, I wouldn't put that number for Burns at 12 sacks.

If he can stay healthy for 17 games, with an upgraded offense, better scheme/coaches, I think the incentive number should be 15 as I think he'll easily surpass 12 sacks.

If he plays 17 games this year, I don't expect him to come in at less than 15 sacks

[carpanfan96]

Just now, tukafan21 said:

hmmm, that's interesting.

But if we're saying what is likely vs unlikely, I wouldn't put that number for Burns at 12 sacks.

If he can stay healthy for 17 games, with an upgraded offense, better scheme/coaches, I think the incentive number should be 15 as I think he'll easily surpass 12 sacks.

If he plays 17 games this year, I don't expect him to come in at less than 15 sacks

League has values for positions based on player performance on what would be considered ltbe and nltbe

[carpanfan96]

Oh and to add no way Burns and his agent accept anything below 25m because that's what Bosa is getting on average in guaranteed money. 

Think 28-30m on salary and 60-70% of contract value as fully guaranteed 

Edited September 6, 2023 by carpanfan96

[carpanfan96]

If I was to say for sure on what Burns ends up getting, this is my best guess right now. 

5 years, 142.5m with 90m guaranteed 

[therealmjl]

2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

If I was to say for sure on what Burns ends up getting, this is my best guess right now. 

5 years, 142.5m with 90m guaranteed 

Please make it happen

[SmittysLawnGuy]

13 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

If I was to say for sure on what Burns ends up getting, this is my best guess right now. 

5 years, 142.5m with 90m guaranteed 

Almost exactly what I expect. Some decent BS up in your head .

[carpanfan96]

16 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Almost exactly what I expect. Some decent BS up in your head .

Let's him and his agent say he's the 2nd highest paid edge player with the third most guaranteed of edge players. 

 

Could be off on the second part, but I think that's right. 

[SmittysLawnGuy]

2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Let's him and his agent say he's the 2nd highest paid edge player with the third most guaranteed of edge players. 

 

Could be off on the second part, but I think that's right. 

And if he is turning that offer down I can see why we are hard balling him. The line does have to be drawn somewhere. Let him protest for his six weeks. (Has to start by week 7 to accrue a season) Play it out, tag him once next year and then see ya. The offer you mentioned is more than adequate. Now if we're hard lining on 25 per then shame on us.

[carpanfan96]

3 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

And if he is turning that offer down I can see why we are hard balling him. The line does have to be drawn somewhere. Let him protest for his six weeks. (Has to start by week 7 to accrue a season) Play it out, tag him once next year and then see ya. The offer you mentioned is more than adequate. Now if we're hard lining on 25 per then shame on us.

Oh no the Panthers initial offer was little over 23m aav on a 5 year deal. Think 5 years 115m with 60m guaranteed.  That's what he turned down. 

 

Reason I went 29.5m is that he was turning down a contract that was 5m off of the current contracts before Bosa.  He's not gonna go any lower than 5m under Bosa. He wants to be 2nd and by a margin. 

Edited September 7, 2023 by carpanfan96

[SmittysLawnGuy]

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

Oh no the Panthers initial offer was little over 23m aav on a 5 year deal. Think 5 years 115m with 60m guaranteed.  That's what he turned down. 

I sort of meant if we won't budge over 25. In all fairness the number should be 28. If he is demanding 30 that's too much and the people that will say really gonna let this happen squabbling over 2 million, yep it's already an overpay at 28, like I said there has to be a line but 25 isn't it.

[SmittysLawnGuy]

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