College Football 2023

[toldozer]

BOOM, that's how we do it!! @4corners you ready to get some? Leonard is coming for you. Better then Howell or Maye

[Davidson Deac II]

7 hours ago, CRA said:

No but they would have counted as a quality win for FSU if FSU has the season they hope for.  Clemson is really the only one on the schedule for FSU.  So it robbed them of claiming 2 wins against top 10 teams.   Clemson is really the only team in the ACC with real weight to their name.   And the only ranked opponent FSU will likely see.  Someone might sneak into the bottom of the top 25 I guess. 

One thing I have learned in watching sports over the years, and that is that things change every week.  Some teams that we thought were good will turn out to be not so good, and others will be better than we thought. There are several teams on the FSU schedule that could be ranked when FSU plays them.  

[Davidson Deac II]

21 minutes ago, CRA said:

Clemson has the most talented roster in the ACC.   And these are some of the best QB prospects any team in the nation can land.  Whatever the talent advantage has been is still in play. 

Clemson has really one issue.  It’s the passing game.  Everything else is in place and has been.  And it’s clearly a coaching/scheme issue.  Because it’s 5 star QBs looking like D3 backups.   Got to think it’s Dabo thumbprint of how they are managing the QB/pass game.   It’s all the same offense on repeat even with Riley, 

They might have more five star recruits, but that doesn't mean they have the most talented roster.  Those recruit rankings are guesstimates.  Overall, the more highly ranked recruits you have the better, but they don't always pan out.  

Edited September 5, 2023 by Davidson Deac II

[mrcompletely11]

6 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Definitely a tinder box sort of discussion 

Wut?

[ForJimmy]

Not a fan of Dabo so I find this hilarious. 

[AceBoogie]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Clemson has the most talented roster in the ACC.   And these are some of the best QB prospects any team in the nation can land.  Whatever the talent advantage has been is still in play. 

Clemson has really one issue.  It’s the passing game.  Everything else is in place and has been.  And it’s clearly a coaching/scheme issue.  Because it’s 5 star QBs looking like D3 backups.   Got to think it’s Dabo thumbprint of how they are managing the QB/pass game.   It’s all the same offense on repeat even with Riley, 

Dabo has failed to adjust to the NIL era. Wants to sign a certain type of kid, doesn’t want to embrace transfers. Ran off the better option at QB. It’s all centered around Dabo and the high school program he wants to run. Has his kids on the team when they clearly aren’t D1 athletes. He won with elite talent and then he stopped recruiting it. 

[jayboogieman]

 

 

 

 

 

[jayboogieman]

This one might be perfect, 

 

[weyco2000]

1 hour ago, toldozer said:

BOOM, that's how we do it!! @4corners you ready to get some? Leonard is coming for you. Better then Howell or Maye

Great game by Duke, defended the pass pretty damn well (pass rush/secondary), out coached and all out hustle. Leonard made some plays, especially the 44 yard TD run… HOWEVER, let’s not get carried away putting him above or at the level of Maye or Howell. That’s just flat out trolling… lol!!

[csx]

24 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Dabo has failed to adjust to the NIL era. Wants to sign a certain type of kid, doesn’t want to embrace transfers. Ran off the better option at QB. It’s all centered around Dabo and the high school program he wants to run. Has his kids on the team when they clearly aren’t D1 athletes. He won with elite talent and then he stopped recruiting it. 

Klubnik was the top QB of his signing year and 3rd overall prospect 

It's just not working and that's not uncommon.  Because dj uiagalelei was also #1 QB and #3 overall and wasn't good either. 

You don't get more elite than landing two top QB prospects in a row. But that guarantees nothing.

 

[weyco2000]

30 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Dabo has failed to adjust to the NIL era. Wants to sign a certain type of kid, doesn’t want to embrace transfers. Ran off the better option at QB. It’s all centered around Dabo and the high school program he wants to run. Has his kids on the team when they clearly aren’t D1 athletes. He won with elite talent and then he stopped recruiting it. 

Yeah, much of his success came from recruiting and relying on his coordinators to run the game. Personally, I’ve never considered him a great coach and apparently the NFL agrees, but that’s just my opinion.

[AceBoogie]

8 minutes ago, csx said:

Klubnik was the top QB of his signing year and 3rd overall prospect 

It's just not working and that's not uncommon.  Because dj uiagalelei was also #1 QB and #3 overall and wasn't good either. 

You don't get more elite than landing two top QB prospects in a row. But that guarantees nothing.

 

DJ was actually pretty damn good last year. The narrative surrounding him was bad and Dabo helped feed that narrative. DJ put up better numbers last year than Will Levis and Anthony Richardson 

[AceBoogie]

2 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

Yeah, much of his success came from recruiting and relying on his coordinators to run the game. Personally, I’ve never considered him a great coach and apparently the NFL agrees, but that’s just my opinion.

And the moment he stopped recruiting talent look at him 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

Dabo has failed to adjust to the NIL era. Wants to sign a certain type of kid, doesn’t want to embrace transfers. Ran off the better option at QB. It’s all centered around Dabo and the high school program he wants to run. Has his kids on the team when they clearly aren’t D1 athletes. He won with elite talent and then he stopped recruiting it. 

Clemson has absurd talent vs the rest of the ACC.   That's just a fact. 

Poor QB play is just as big of a game changer as great QB play.   That's the issue.  Not recruiting.  Not talent. 

and DJU and Cade were both the #1 QB recruits in the entire nation of their classes.  You can't recruit better than the #1 QB of a class.   He didn't stop recruiting talent. Dabo has them instantly looking like middle schoolers. 

and it certainly appears Dabo has just put his thumbprint on this O to a fault.  I can call the plays ahead of time.  It's been that way for years.  So you know a college defense can figure it out.    

Clemson went 11-3 last year with arguably THE worst QB play in all the power 5.  Was pretty much the same the year prior too.   Clemson can pull off those great bad years with no QB play.....because the talent in Clemson isn't comparable elsewhere in the ACC