It depends, but I see our ceiling at 7-10

[csx]

5 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

No one has any clue how this team will look week 1 yet that's why we're either going to win the division or do worse than Rhule depending on who you ask

if you ain't first you're last

[OceanPanther]

16 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Saints weren't even dominating this division when they had Peyton and Brees. Now all of a sudden they are the superior team with David freakin Carr!

 

Stop it!

During the time Peyton and Brees were in N O ..  There were good teams in the NFC South too. All 3 went to the Super Bowl with  Cam, Matt Ryan, and Tom Brady ..  So  "David freakin Carr"  might not be Brees,, but the other 3 QB's aren't Super Bowl QB's yet either

[gofightwin]

Lets just be competitive the second half of the year. Who cares what the final record looks like. We aren't going to a very good team the first half of the year.  New coach, new offense with a rookie QB and all new offensive weapons. Most of these guys have know each other less than 4 months. We are just looking for glimmers the first half and start to come together the second. Just because we have the parts to be somewhat successful, its gonna take time to oil the machine. 

Will we win some games? Yeah sure! Are gonna look good doing it? Probably not.

[csx]

17 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Saints weren't even dominating this division when they had Peyton and Brees. Now all of a sudden they are the superior team with David freakin Carr!

 

Stop it!

The Saints had 20 more wins than any other team during the decade of 2010-2020. This was at a time the NFC South was probably the strongest it's been.

20 more than the Falcons

31 more than the Panthers

43 more than Tampa

Edited August 21, 2023 by csx

[top dawg]

4 hours ago, X-Clown said:

He has started all of 4 games and was just OK. I saw nothing that made me think that’s a 10 year starter and a thorn in our side. I am not even convinced he won’t be yanked I’m favor of Taylor Heinicke if he struggles this year.  Not sure how you came to the conclusion where you already put him in the Brees/Brady/Ryan/Newton category yet.

I said nothing about him being any of the above. He's obviously a relatively inexperienced QB in his sophomore season.  You can't discount him this early in the game, especially when he's reportedly been solid.

Edited August 21, 2023 by top dawg

[Sgt Schultz]

I think our ceiling is more than 7 wins, but there are a lot of IFs that go along with a ceiling.  IF the OL plays like it did in stretches of last year, IF the WRs play to what we think their potential is, IF Bryce is as good as processing plays as reported, IF the defense can hold its own weight against the run (especially critical against the Falcons, it seems), IF the secondary is decent, IF our coaching staff can steal a win or two, IF our injury situation does not kill us, etc.

I think we settle in somewhere between 7 and 10 wins.  Vegas' 7.5 over/under is reasonable, given the unknowns. 

My evaluation of where we stand at the end of this year is not dependent on that number, but how we play down the stretch and what hope there is for 2024.  I'd love to see 10-7, but that is not my expectation.

IF too many of our IFs don't pan out, and I think the margin for error there is slim, this board may do its best impression of Chernobyl for the next year.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

The proper answer is: how many wins do you think Dalton or Corral can give us? Because we have zero idea how Young will do. The entire season falls on his shoulders and his alone. If his rookie year is a let down (as many rookies have had) our team is then a team with Andy or Matt as the QB.

I think Bryce can get us 7 wins his rookie season. His future is bright though.

Andy gets us 8.

Matt gets us 5.

[X-Clown]

44 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I said nothing about him being any of the above. He's obviously a relatively inexperienced QB in his sophomore season.  You can't discount him this early in the game, especially when he's reportedly been solid.

My response was to a different poster who said because of the last decade's results where the division winner was typically putting up 11 plus wins, that we should expect the same this year if to have a chance to win. My point was that the last 10 years, we've had 4 good to great quarterbacks in the division, whereas none of the starting QBs now have shown the ability of Prime Cam and Ryan/Brees/Brady.

If you don't disagree, then what was the point of your response?

[Gerry Green]

20 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Saints weren't even dominating this division when they had Peyton and Brees. Now all of a sudden they are the superior team with David freakin Carr!

 

Stop it!

 

A lot of the Huddlerz are like the wife. If she can think it, it can happen. lol

 

If Bryce even sniffs the ROY, we are fighting for the Playoffs.

[Wolfcop]

23 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Our ceiling is 17-0

Our REALISTIC ceiling is probably 10-7

Our realistic outcome is probably between 7-10 and 9-8

Well said. Also note, we were not expected to be as good as we were during either of the SB runs we made. I don't think that happens this year, but you usually do not see it coming. 

[NJPanthers89]

Vegas over under for the Panthers i've seen anywhere from 7-7.5.  Thats gonna start coming down once they wake up and realize how bad this team is.  Realistically because the division is weak, i think we can peak at 6 wins.  I wouldn't be shocked with 5 tho.

[thefuzz]

Our first 6 games, 4 are on the road, and of those 6, only two teams had losing records last season, and those two were New Orleans and Atlanta.

The first part of the season could be brutal.  Need to have some perspective heading into this one gents.

[Mr. Scot]

43 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Need to have some perspective heading into this one gents.

Reactions to preseason so far don't exactly make me optimistic on that front

[SOJA]

I think our ceiling is 11-6 but our floor is 5-12, realistically I think we win somewhere between 7-9 games