Is Fitterer the right guy?

[CRA]

51 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

If you have been paying attention you know who has been brought in the last 2 years. And there are plenty of players that have joined in the last 2 years that have, and will, make us better. I'd bet most Panther fans can name close to 10 or more players over the last 2 years. 

 

again, I don't care which path you take.  But if you want to give credit to Fitt for moves made in the Matt Rhule era.....then you can't make him immune to all the bad and claim Rhule was the all powerful and the real one at fault. 

if you want to claim you can only judge him post Matt Rhule's firing? That's cool too.  But literally none of that has shown up in Carolina uniform yet on Sunday to prove anything.  

So, you would have to declare a timeline on when you are evaluating Fitt as a GM.   Last 2 years goes into the Rhule era.  And there is a lot of bad there.   

  

 

[CRA]

I mean, look at "official depth chart" there is not a single starter on offense in terms of skill players that has logged an official snap for the Carolina Panthers. 

Hard to say our GM has done a great job building things up here given he is going into year 3.   In an offensive league. 

Unless, you acknowledge this is a rebuild.  Then it makes perfect sense for that to be the case. 

[Harbingers]

13 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, look at "official depth chart" there is not a single starter on offense in terms of skill players that has logged an official snap for the Carolina Panthers. 

Hard to say our GM has done a great job building things up here given he is going into year 3.   In an offensive league. 

Unless, you acknowledge this is a rebuild.  Then it makes perfect sense for that to be the case. 

NFL rebuilds aren’t NHL rebuilds. Aka an NFL rebuild shouldn’t take 5-7 years and shouldn’t be sold as such. An NFL rebuild is in the 3-4(in a worst case) seasons window. After that it just becomes a failure.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Harbingers

[WCUcats]

I am glad that our fanbase is taking this preseason in stride and haven't gone completely unhinged. 

[Day1PanthersFan]

2 minutes ago, WCUcats said:

I am glad that our fanbase is taking this preseason in stride and haven't gone completely unhinged. 

Well, seeing has this is a new team , with a rookie QB, and new coaching staff, Pre-season means more than a team with already established starters just going through the motions

And the fact that our starters were awful 2 games in a row, after 3 years of being the joke of the league, is enough to make anyone unhinged 

[Gerry Green]

29 minutes ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

Well, seeing has this is a new team , with a rookie QB, and new coaching staff, Pre-season means more than a team with already established starters just going through the motions

And the fact that our starters were awful 2 games in a row, after 3 years of being the joke of the league, is enough to make anyone unhinged 

 

What part of Reich saying that we will be vanilla did you not understand?

1 hour ago, CRA said:

again, I don't care which path you take.  But if you want to give credit to Fitt for moves made in the Matt Rhule era.....then you can't make him immune to all the bad and claim Rhule was the all powerful and the real one at fault. 

if you want to claim you can only judge him post Matt Rhule's firing? That's cool too.  But literally none of that has shown up in Carolina uniform yet on Sunday to prove anything.  

So, you would have to declare a timeline on when you are evaluating Fitt as a GM.   Last 2 years goes into the Rhule era.  And there is a lot of bad there.   

  

 

 

54 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, look at "official depth chart" there is not a single starter on offense in terms of skill players that has logged an official snap for the Carolina Panthers. 

Hard to say our GM has done a great job building things up here given he is going into year 3.   In an offensive league. 

Unless, you acknowledge this is a rebuild.  Then it makes perfect sense for that to be the case. 

 

See, this is the deal. It is widely known that Rhule had no authority last draft. You have to know these things. Or are you just playing the contrarian card?

 

Either way. I'm done. Play your mental gymnastics games with someone else.

[mrcompletely11]

7 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

What part of Reich saying that we will be vanilla did you not understand?

 

 

See, this is the deal. It is widely known that Rhule had no authority last draft. You have to know these things. Or are you just playing the contrarian card?

 

Either way. I'm done. Play your mental gymnastics games with someone else.

Mods I thought you were cracking down on crap like this.  

[Gerry Green]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Mods I thought you were cracking down on crap like this.  

 

lol

[CRA]

39 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

See, this is the deal. It is widely known that Rhule had no authority last draft. You have to know these things. Or are you just playing the contrarian card?

 

Either way. I'm done. Play your mental gymnastics games with someone else.

It’s all selectively picking, choosing and guessing to suit.  That’s the point.  Either you open up the Rhule era to judge him or you don’t.  I’m fine either way.   

there is no mental gymnastics.  You want to say Fitt had done a great job building things up….I’m simply stating not a single starter at the skill positions on O has ever logged a single yard for Carolina.  And it’s an offensive league.   So what did he build as he enters year 3? 

it’s a rebuild.  We will see what happens.  Fitt doesn’t have much to his name in reality. 

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

He traded the #1 WR and picks for Bryce Young. I guess he's banking on Bryce Young being the offense. Pieces around him will come later. For all we know Mingo might be the real deal. 

 

We can't really judge Fitt until we start playing games. 

He traded the 2 best offensive players on the team for picks.   Which I get the why.   And I’m fine holding off judgement on him and judging him post Rhule’s firing.  You just can’t say he has done of lot yet.   Every skill position guy added together has logged zero yards us in their career.  Whatever we are building is in its infancy. 

 

[ickmule]

So far it doesn’t appear so. 

[NJPanthers89]

Can't wait until Mr. "In on Every Deal" trades for Jonathan Taylor 🫣.  Instead of wasting money on jags like Hayden Hurst, Thielen and Miles Sanders in a year with "low expectations", maybe he could have signed a legit DT or OG for the future.  Instead he put lipstick on a pig team, a team that is going nowhere, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take the blinders off.    

There legit aren't many offenses that look worse on paper than ours...all i can think of are like Houston and Arizona, and its close lol.   

[1982heels]

On 8/19/2023 at 10:20 AM, 4Corners said:

Trading up for Matt Corrall over Sam Howell. BIG TIME swing and miss. 

No doubt

[pantherj]

12 hours ago, panthers55 said:

I don't agree Fitz has done a bad job once he was in charge. He gave Wilks the reins and that worked out pretty well. Bringing in Reich and his staff was a major coup. Reich was clearly one of the best choices out there and his staff is widely regarded as one of the best before the season even starts. 

Clearly your beef is not trading Burns for a bunch of picks.  Let's see how he does before deciding if keeping or trading him was a good idea. And let's see what the final impact he makes versus the cost before bitching about the contract especially the guaranteed amount which is all that matters.

You are right though, players wanted to be here and guys like Shaq took a pay cut just to be a part of what we are building. Sorry to say it but with your take on things I am glad you are like me, just a fan and not the GM. Frankly I haven't been this hopeful in years.

Wilks was send packing, so it didn't work out all that well. Fitt has seen a great many people sent packing. Not good obviously.

We have no idea if Reich will pan out, so just like with Burns we need to wait and see. I'm unaware of any sort of battle to court Reich and beat out other interested teams for his services. The last bidding war we had was for Rhule of course. 

Not trading Burns for 3 first round picks still bothers me. I'd rather have the picks based on what I've seen from Burns in the past. But I acknowledge that I'm just a fan, and my opinion could turn out to be incorrect.  

I certainly wouldn't and couldn't be the GM of the Panthers. I'm glad I'm just a fan as well.

Now I have a question for you. Were you one of Rhule's biggest defenders on the Huddle?