Giants game

[Toker Smurf]

7 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

The thing that bothers me with what we've done so far is that my impression of Reich's teams in Indy were hard-nosed, mean, aggressive, smart, fundamentally sound teams that struggled with a ton of turnover and the victims of never having a real franchise QB, so they struggled more than they should have.  

The poo we've put on tape the last two weeks is nothing like that.  Supposedly we have our franchise QB in place, even if a rookie, but it's all the other poo going on around it.  Everyone keeps bringing up the vanilla scheme and all that, but our opponents are running bullshit schemes too, and they're still whooping our asses.  The issue really is we are getting beat in almost every matchup, we are not fundamentally sound, we are not aggressive, we are not smart, we are not hard-nosed...  we just look flat, uninspired, and really uninterested.  Yes, again, I'm keeping it in perspective that it's preseason, but I don't know that I've ever been more underwhelmed by a preseason showing in our history, including the Rhule years, which is saying something.

I anticipate the actual scheme and real playcalling is gonna make a big difference and at the very least keep us competitive, but damn...  poo like Ickey looking like complete ass both games, the whole OL looking just as ass, especially the interior...  the defense getting gashed, guys getting beat in coverage, guys not tackling, receivers and Young not being on the same page multiple times in 2 weeks, etc.  It's just all bad.  Just not many things to be encouraged about in what our guys have shown.

But, we'll see what happens come the regular season...  but, no question, this poo has been beyond disappointing.

He had a very different coaching staff in Indianapolis. Here he built an All Star staff. You’d think it would be better but more independent thinking and less Reich influence, overall. Will be a while before we know if it works. 

[BlackPanther22]

I get having concerns for sure because some things don’t look great. However, I can’t understand writing the team off in games where back ups/maybe practice squad guys play 85% of the game. Even if it’s not fun right now for you guys we still won’t really know till week 1. 
 

I will say though, I do like the rhythm of the offense with Thomas as the playcaller better so far. That dynamic will be interesting when the season rolls around because there was a point in time where Frank Reich was considered one of the better playcalling HC’s in the league. 
 

But yeah, overall I see things that need to be cleaned up but that’s what preseason is for and I know folks may not like to hear that but it’s the truth. Now if they come out flat week 1 vs Atlanta then yeah let’s have a conversation, until then, it is what it is. 

[Jackie Lee]

 

[ForJimmy]

33 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Sign Fournette! 

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

I’ve been saying it since before the first preseason game…..but we need to round out our backfield and add talent. 

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I actually came out feeling a little better.  At least the offense showed a little bit.  And the Oline issues could be fixed.  

Same...

[cmichd08]

22 hours ago, GOAT said:

no game day thread, people already giving up on the team.

if that ain't a measuring stick for where this fan base is with this product idk what is...

if it's not 21-0 by half, we might be discussing selling the team this weekend.

GOAT you were close. I am starting to think we should start Dalton against the Falcons and let Bryce sit for the game. It might give us a chance to be in the game by Half Time.

[thefuzz]

Watched the offense with BY in there just now.

 

OL isn't playing up to their standard, but not the end of the world either, this can be fixed with playing time.  Young looked better, and you can see that we have some guys who can play at wideout, but no real play makers....maybe Chark can stay healthy and the OL can protect a little better...that could be some big plays waiting to happen.  Maybe.

I think the Offense will look better with Miles in there, and I bet we rely heavily on the screen game this year, could be why the OL looks so weird right now?  Who knows.

I think this can be a .500 team, and to be honest, I'd be happy with that, so long as we improve through the season.  Our schedule looks tough to me, but you never really know what teams will look like until a few games in.

I'm worried about the constant pressure on BY, that's the only thing that really concerns me at this point. 

The rest is just fluff.

[cmichd08]

13 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

You aren’t alone. I’ll wait for the regular season before I start making judgements.

Not freaking but Bryce is not ready to start. Maybe next year. Let Dalton be given the reigns and next year let Bryce content for the number one slot. Shoot Reich started for us over Collins and in game 4 Collins came in and led the Panthers the rest of the season. Give him 3 games behind Dalton and not force him into games just because he was the #1 pick.

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, cmichd08 said:

Not freaking but Bryce is not ready to start.

What did he do to make you arrive at this idiotic conclusion 

[TheCasillas]

4 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

What did he do to make you arrive at this idiotic conclusion 

he probably just looked at the box score

[therealmjl]

1 hour ago, cmichd08 said:

Not freaking but Bryce is not ready to start. Maybe next year. Let Dalton be given the reigns and next year let Bryce content for the number one slot. Shoot Reich started for us over Collins and in game 4 Collins came in and led the Panthers the rest of the season. Give him 3 games behind Dalton and not force him into games just because he was the #1 pick.

Lol what

[cmichd08]

Young was 4-for-6 for 21 yards against the Jets. He led Carolina to only one first down in three series, didn't get the offense past midfield and was 0-for-2 on third down. 

Young finished 3-of-6 for 35 yards on two series at MetLife Stadium, making him 7-of-12 for 56 yards in two preseason games.

I will give him credit for having a 70.5% QBR and a total of 3 points. I Said to let him sit till he was ready to take over and let Dalton start the opener against the Falcons. I know he is going against the 1st and 2nd team players. I am sorry he really isn't putting up huge numbers, but the whole team has look bad in their 2 preseason games. I am not blaming Young for the team's troubles. Just saying he is not ready to start and give him some time to eye the game for the first quarter of the season. Are you thinking this team is going to the playoffs.

[Mage]

Look at this play at :13

 

The ability to read the field, feel the pressure, slide to his left, still keep his eyes down the field, and side arm a pass in between 2 defenders.  It was a close miss because #15 hesitated a bit but plays like that translate, especially as the receivers become more comfortable with Young's style.

Also I know he slipped but my goodness that evade at :49.  

If you aren't impressed by Young then I don't know what to tell you.  His game translates to the NFL.  There are few exceptions but you want your QB to be a playmaker and that is what he is.

I don't know what to expect out of him as a rookie.  Not sure his numbers will look great.  But if he continues to show traits like this, then there is no doubt in my mind we are looking at our franchise QB.