Hey guys, it's 2011 not 2015.

[ForJimmy]

Just now, KillerKat said:

Steve Wilks won 6 games. Only 2 of those teams ended up with a winning record at the end of the season with 9 wins each. 4 of them with losing records. Teams also didnt have anything on his coaching style. In the end, he wound up being the reason we didnt make the playoffs anyway. 

Its time to have realistic expectations for the season. All new staff and rookie QB, you should be optimistic about the future for 2024 and 2025, not ready to put everyone on the hot seat after 1 preseason game in their first year.

Yeah people need to stop looking at the record and look at the team performances. When we played good teams like the Bengals we got embarrassed. If we could run we were good if not we were screwed. Last year’s team would have gotten embarrassed if we snuck into the playoffs. Each season is a different schedule with different teams with different rosters. 

[TwoEleven]

Look at our QB now then look at our QB in 2011

[CRA]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah people need to stop looking at the record and look at the team performances. When we played good teams like the Bengals we got embarrassed. If we could run we were good if not we were screwed. Last year’s team would have gotten embarrassed if we snuck into the playoffs. Each season is a different schedule with different teams with different rosters. 

If you had one of the top 10 worst run Ds in the NFL or horrific QB play….the Wilks Panthers might could get you.  We weren’t good. 

[Wolfcop]

You know all this after one preseason game where there is zero scheming and our best pass rushers sat out. Gotcha 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

If you had one of the top 10 worst run Ds in the NFL or horrific QB play….the Wilks Panthers might could get you.  We weren’t good. 

Exactly. His goal was to try to keep it close playing very conservative ball and hoped we could still a win. Even Wilks knew it was a bad team. People need to rewatch that Bengals game. 

[tukafan21]

We don't have to make the playoffs, but anything short of finishing outside the Top 10 in next year's draft order will be an utter failure of a season on multiple levels.

First, as others have noted, we had a 7 win team last season and have improved at literally every position on the field except for #1 WR, and even then, our WR room as a group is much better than last years.  And sure, you could make the argument that it's a new staff, but this "new staff" is so much better than the garbage staff we had last year, especially seeing as our winning streak came after we fired out HC and DC.

If we finish with what would have been a Top 10 pick in next year's draft, imagine how much better that pick would have been if we were playing Corral at QB this year instead of Young, would have been all but guaranteed to be a Top 3 pick, if not #1 outright.

I don't care how much of a Bryce supporter you are, I don't think anyone is going to say he's a better prospect than Caleb Williams and maybe not even Drake Maye.  If we're so bad of a team with that we'd have been in a position to draft one of them next year without trading away Moore and all the other draft pick assets, then we'll be in a much worse place moving forward than if we had just not made that trade.

And that more than anything is why we have to have a successful season, giving up next year's pick in such a good QB draft will look like a terrible mistake given what else we'd have been able to keep to build around that Top pick in next year's draft.  

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Wolfcop said:

You know all this after one preseason game where there is zero scheming and our best pass rushers sat out. Gotcha 

You largely knew it before the game….when traded away all our offensive studs for the draft, hired a new staff, that has a new O, new D and has a rookie QB. 

[Wolfcop]

43 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

It’s been one preseason game. 

 

People love to overreact. It’s comical. 

[Wolfcop]

This team doesn’t have to make the playoffs in year 1, but I’d be willing to bet my paycheck that everyone will be firmly on the bandwagon by season’s end. 

[NAS]

21 minutes ago, Leaky_Faucet said:

So before blaming the brand new coaching staff with years of NFL experience, I would look at who is supplying the players. Frank Reich does not have the roster control that Matt Rhule had. I see multiple people complaining about players such as Jordan and Erving. However, Frank Reich did not bring them back. He also didn't draft Keith Taylor and trade for CJ Henderson.

This is a fair point, I absolutely think Fitterer should be on the hot seat and be fired if this team underachieves and hands the Bears a top 5 or top 10 pick.  I still think this coaching staff has enough pieces to have a winning record.   

Edited August 13, 2023 by NAS

[toldozer]

2 hours ago, DeeJay said:

Jimmy clausen saved this franchise

We got cam 

Looks like corral could have gotten us Williams or Maye. 

[La Pantera]

5 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

You know all this after one preseason game where there is zero scheming and our best pass rushers sat out. Gotcha .

Our best passrusher wouldn't help our crap run D. Jets had 50 yards in the first quarter. On top of that the Oline couldn't do their most basic of jobs. 

[Wolfcop]

1 minute ago, La Pantera said:

Our best passrusher wouldn't help our crap run D. Jets had 50 yards in the first quarter. On top of that the Oline couldn't do their most basic of jobs. 

You’re right. Fire everyone. 

[La Pantera]

Just now, Wolfcop said:

You’re right. Fire everyone. 

No one's calling for anyone's firing. Just looking reality in the face. This team has to make some serious strides if they want to compete. IDC how the leagues changed. If you can't stop the run or pass block you're going to lose.