Positive from Today: Bryce Young's Talent in One Play

[ladypanther]

 

 

This was  dangerous for a quarterback of any size.  Lucky Bryce was not hurt. I still think the way the Jets player landed on Bryce with his full body weight...was roughing. Impressed bryce acted like it was nothing.  He even took responsibility.  I am sure he made friends of the oline today.

[TheBigKat]

Bryce passed my eyeball test

 

 took shots and bounced up

 Had clean passes

[Khyber53]

Any preseason game should offer the opportunity for you to look at your team and see where you need to install some fixes.

Honestly, the Monday morning workload after that game is going to be massive. There's an awful lot to work on.

And, honestly again, if we are trying to cheer Bryce's first pass and the fact that he took a monster hit from behind and survived it, well we're kind of polishing a turd.

That was just an embarassing game, even for a preseason one. Pride alone should have seen us not get shutout like that in our home stadium. Woof.

Hope it gets better from here.

[ladypanther]

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

I’ve watched a few videos this morning and a comment that seemed to be consistent is that the jets appeared to be running a schemed defense you’d normally not see in preseason. Similar to how the patriots have done in the past. 
 

there were multiple disguised blitzes, multi-assignment coverages, dline stunt play and hybrid zones. 
 

jets better slow play that … they are gonna have that tape used against them during the season.

Hope it does end up biting the jets.  On the positive side the Panthers got more of an education than expected.  Hoping that pays off.

[Stuart Smith]

2 hours ago, Castavar said:

Bryce looked like a 5 year vet out there in terms of looking defenders off, knowing where to go with the football, throwing it where only his guy can make a play, etc. I just wish he had more time to showcase a good drive for us.

Also, Ickey was responsible for that first pressure. He didn't get enough depth to where he could trade defenders with Brady in case they ran a stunt (which they did). I honestly don't think they expected the Jets to be running stunts in a preseason game, so maybe there's that. I'm sure Campen will go over film and correct these things.

The offensive line still concerns me more than anything. Carolina’s offensive line will have to bring their A game every week. Carolina’s opponents (the D line) will be trying to make a highlight film by sacking the number one draft pick. I hope that this coaching staff is truly evaluating the talent on this roster, because if they are Cam Erving and Michael Jordan will not make the final 53. If I accept the fact that the Jets were running stunts and schemes you normally do not see in preseason I still cannot accept the lack of effort by the offensive line.  If you get pushed back off the OL consistently and collapse the pocket you are a liability. It will be interesting to see which offensive linemen make the final 53. 

[Eric4280]

7 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Despite the doom and gloom of the offense performing poorly for the most part (some warranted, most attributed to vanilla playcalling vs a jets defense letting go of the reins imo), there were a few positives that can be taken away.

For instance, Bryce Young's first NFL (preseason) pass.

In particular, take note of Young's head movement. His begins processing the left side, then quickly makes his way through to the right before landing on Thielen for the first.

For a rookie QB, this is insane.

Super fast processing and progressing through his reads. Something many veterans would struggle with. Young's speed through his progressions and understanding is incredible, and super exciting to see out of a rookie QB. Far from the one read QBs we've had lately and some of the slower processors from the other rookies, Young looks like he belongs.

Despite being thrown to the ringer on his first scrimmage, Young looked the part.

Once the Panthers actually gameplan and the o-line gets more cohesive, I'm sure we'll see his talent blossom. 

Was the trade with the Bears worth it? Time will tell, but so far, Young is looking incredible for a rookie. Definitely a lot to be excited about.

Don’t tell this to Varking or whatever that dude with the weird Avatar pics name is..

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, Smithers said:

I’ve never understood the whole “we don’t wanna show anything” argument.  Maybe that provides a benefit for the first half of the first game, but after that teams know what type of schemes you run.  The majority of teams now use the preseason to practice the very things you want to run in the regular season.  It’s fine to sit some players, but at least make an effort to see how your playbook translates on the field in games.  By week 2 everyone is gonna know it anyways.  

I'm not sure that's why they don't scheme.  They are evaluating players and not schemes.  If you are scheming and the other team isn't, do you really know whether it's the player or the scheme?

[top dawg]

24 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Any preseason game should offer the opportunity for you to look at your team and see where you need to install some fixes.

Honestly, the Monday morning workload after that game is going to be massive. There's an awful lot to work on.

And, honestly again, if we are trying to cheer Bryce's first pass and the fact that he took a monster hit from behind and survived it, well we're kind of polishing a turd.

That was just an embarassing game, even for a preseason one. Pride alone should have seen us not get shutout like that in our home stadium. Woof.

Hope it gets better from here.

Bryce "got up fast."

I'm being facetious, but I think that if we take a step back as Panthers fans, maybe his showing was pretty good within the context.

 

1. Bryce Young, Panthers (Round 1, No. 1 overall, Alabama)

Grade: A

Stats: 4-of-6 passing, 21 yards, 3.5 yards per attempt, 72.2 passer rating, 

"Young's numbers didn't come with any big plays. He was under pressure for the most of Saturday afternoon against the Jets' talented and deep pass rush. He didn't take off a make a highlight run, either. But he quickly silenced any remaining critics about his size, maturity and readiness for the NFL.

"The Panthers ran a vanilla passing scheme under Frank Reich and Thomas Brown. Young did as best he could to get the ball out quickly vs. the rush. He got up fast after taking a big hit early from Solomon Thomas. He just missed downfield to D.J. Chark with a overthrow created by needing to get rid of the ball with Jermaine Johnson flying off the edge. Young also wasn't helped by Laviska Shenault shortening a third-down route. Young's best throw was a bullet to who will be his reliable go-to guy, Adam Thielen.

"Young's leadership and intangibles as the unquestioned Panthers starter were on full display. He can do what's needed playing off an effective run-heavy offense and improving defense, staying efficient, making right decisions and minimizing mistakes before he unleashes his passing ceiling at some point."

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/bryce-young-anthony-richardson-stetson-bennett-preseason-grades/zhzncglk37ndpk3c4bfcghhv

[Jackie Lee]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

Corral looked like a guy who got hurt last preseason and wasn’t repping. Got to consider him a rookie again.  Game looks too fast.  Which makes sense. 

Yeah I think Corral still looked better than last preseason considering he was barely getting 2 seconds to get rid of the ball each snap

[Khyber53]

6 hours ago, top dawg said:

Bryce "got up fast."

I'm being facetious, but I think that if we take a step back as Panthers fans, maybe his showing was pretty good within the context.

 

1. Bryce Young, Panthers (Round 1, No. 1 overall, Alabama)

Grade: A

Stats: 4-of-6 passing, 21 yards, 3.5 yards per attempt, 72.2 passer rating, 

"Young's numbers didn't come with any big plays. He was under pressure for the most of Saturday afternoon against the Jets' talented and deep pass rush. He didn't take off a make a highlight run, either. But he quickly silenced any remaining critics about his size, maturity and readiness for the NFL.

"The Panthers ran a vanilla passing scheme under Frank Reich and Thomas Brown. Young did as best he could to get the ball out quickly vs. the rush. He got up fast after taking a big hit early from Solomon Thomas. He just missed downfield to D.J. Chark with a overthrow created by needing to get rid of the ball with Jermaine Johnson flying off the edge. Young also wasn't helped by Laviska Shenault shortening a third-down route. Young's best throw was a bullet to who will be his reliable go-to guy, Adam Thielen.

"Young's leadership and intangibles as the unquestioned Panthers starter were on full display. He can do what's needed playing off an effective run-heavy offense and improving defense, staying efficient, making right decisions and minimizing mistakes before he unleashes his passing ceiling at some point."

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/bryce-young-anthony-richardson-stetson-bennett-preseason-grades/zhzncglk37ndpk3c4bfcghhv

He shouldn't have had to get up at all. Their second stringers just wiffed right by our starting tackles and guards all day long.

We're trying to see something positive out of that and it was "well, the little guy can take a hit." The team needs something better to hang their hats on. Kudos to Bryce there, but he got blindsided badly. Icky let a guy have a free shot at taking out our QB.

This isn't the least bit of criticism of the QB. 

[Varking]

6 hours ago, Eric4280 said:

Don’t tell this to Varking or whatever that dude with the weird Avatar pics name is..

You spell my name right and then add “or whatever”. It’s cute. Just tag me next time. 

[csx]

39 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

He shouldn't have had to get up at all. Their second stringers just wiffed right by our starting tackles and guards all day long.

We're trying to see something positive out of that and it was "well, the little guy can take a hit." The team needs something better to hang their hats on. Kudos to Bryce there, but he got blindsided badly. Icky let a guy have a free shot at taking out our QB.

This isn't the least bit of criticism of the QB. 

All day? Our starting OL played 11 snaps 

[poundaway]

9 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

I’ve watched a few videos this morning and a comment that seemed to be consistent is that the jets appeared to be running a schemed defense you’d normally not see in preseason. Similar to how the patriots have done in the past. 
 

there were multiple disguised blitzes, multi-assignment coverages, dline stunt play and hybrid zones. 
 

jets better slow play that … they are gonna have that tape used against them during the season.

Its true, they ran a bunch of stunts on D.  But that is happening more and more in preseason.  RR did that to us last year. 

During Bryce's series, it was their backups versus our starting OL, nearly all of whom returned from last year.  They should know how to handle those stunts, especially when done by the backups.  Their backups ate our starting OL's lunch.

We need to catch up with the times.  This notion that you play nice in preseason is now old school.

Edited August 13, 2023 by poundaway

[Eric4280]

1 hour ago, Varking said:

You spell my name right and then add “or whatever”. It’s cute. Just tag me next time. 

Don’t tell this to @Varking.