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Something that has perplexed me...


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In last years draft, why was there such a need to trade up for Everette Brown in the first place? White it wasn't a sure bet that he would still be there what...12, 13 picks later, it wasn't out of the realm of possibility either. Was it to make sure they could grab him and still grab Martin later in the 2nd? If so, that is fairly absurd, since I havent seen Martin projected as higher than a 3rd/4th rounder anywhere.

The whole situation just makes very little sense to me.

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In last years draft, why was there such a need to trade up for Everette Brown in the first place? White it wasn't a sure bet that he would still be there what...12, 13 picks later, it wasn't out of the realm of possibility either. Was it to make sure they could grab him and still grab Martin later in the 2nd? If so, that is fairly absurd, since I havent seen Martin projected as higher than a 3rd/4th rounder anywhere.

The whole situation just makes very little sense to me.

Scouting gurus had Martin rated as potentially a late 1st round pick down to high 3rd round. We obviously valued him at the high end. Brown was projected as a 1st rounder so we apparently didn't think he'd fall to us. He also was projected to be a high first round pick had he chose to stay in school another year which coincidentally is what we gave for him, a high 1st round pick next year.

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I've wondered the same questions. But, I still think E. Brown is the replacement to Peppers. During the draft, the Peppers situation was still in limbo and they probably did not know if he would be on the team or not. Still today, Peppers future with the Panthers is in question.

I like Brown..but the Panthers gave up way too much for him.

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I think the only reason people are saying we gave up way too much is the fact that we had a crappy season this year.

If we had played like we were capable, I doubt many would feel that the 28th -30th pick this draft was too much to give up to get both Brown and Goodson.

Hindsight is always 20-20.

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They were in a predicament and really didnt have the cap space to pick up a decent free agent, they went ahead and bit the bullet to move up to grab Brown. I think in Hurney and and Fox's mind, Brown could be the missing piece to an elite team. While the defense certainly has improved despite injuries left and right, the offense was overlooked too much in the draft.

I think something even more perplexing is why Mike Goodson in the 3rd?????

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They were in a predicament and really didnt have the cap space to pick up a decent free agent, they went ahead and bit the bullet to move up to grab Brown. I think in Hurney and and Fox's mind, Brown could be the missing piece to an elite team. While the defense certainly has improved despite injuries left and right, the offense was overlooked too much in the draft.

I think something even more perplexing is why Mike Goodson in the 3rd?????

everyone thought goodson was going to be awesome coming out of the preseason...think those fumbles, then his concussion, and sutton being able to block has put him on the Fox backburner..and that is a hard thing to get out of.

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everyone thought goodson was going to be awesome coming out of the preseason...think those fumbles, then his concussion, and sutton being able to block has put him on the Fox backburner..and that is a hard thing to get out of.

Sutton is awesome.

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Here's what we did with Everette Brown:

We traded away a top 10 pick next year for a defensive end with worse stats than 3rd round defensive end Matt Shaughnessy who has 1 more tackle and 1.5 more sacks than Brown does. We could have just picked Shaughnessy with the pick we used on Martin and received slightly more production than the guy we gave away a top 10 pick for.

Way to go Marty Hurney!

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Here's what we did with Everette Brown:

We traded away a top 10 pick next year for a defensive end with worse stats than 3rd round defensive end Matt Shaughnessy who has 1 more tackle and 1.5 more sacks than Brown does. We could have just picked Shaughnessy with the pick we used on Martin and received slightly more production than the guy we gave away a top 10 pick for.

Way to go Marty Hurney!

Probably doesn't have a thing to do with the fact that the starting DEs for Oakland are 30 and 34 years old resulting in more rotation thus more playing time for Shaughnessy. I wonder if the Raiders don't wonder why he didn't show something before the season? Maybe they wouldn't have seen the need to give away a #1 for a Patriots cast off.

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