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If Delhomme Starts Sunday....

AKPantherFan

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panthers55 Grand Master

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What do you mean by "best chance to win"? Are you basing that on regular season records? Performance against a common opponent? What? Because all I've heard in this thread is people regurgitating this throw in comment without explanation.

I really hadn't thought much about it given I figure that Moore will play this week. But against Minnesota in 2008 his rating was 79. In 2005 he had a rating of 141. I doubt that tells us much. Against Favre or Green Bay, Jake is 2-1 with a rating 100. Again not much to go on. For me Jake will air it out good and bad and will do what he can to win. Moore seems too cautious and unwilling to take chances and throw the ball. I think Moore could air it out and give us a chance to win but the question is will he? We probably lose no matter who plays but for me if you are going to lose anyway, go out slugging playing to win instead of playing it safe and being content with losing by only a little.

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explain to what moore has done to lose the starting job......and the would coulda poo needs to go....moore could have throw 5 ints but he didn't just like jake could have thrown less int but he clearly didn't.what the f are you expecting moore to do carry the team on his back?????

Moore won the starting job largely because Jake in his last 2 outings led the offense to score 17 points and then 6 points, both losses. The thinking must have been that with less turnovers we would be more successful.

So Moore gets the starts and our offense scores 16 and 10 points in his 2 outings but we win one of them only due to our best defensive performance of the year after scoring a measly 16 points.

So Fox has to decide whether to go with someone who can play bad or good and can score 6 points or 36 or do you give Moore another try and see if he can score 20 points in a game. It isn't as cut and dry as people would want you to believe.

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yeah but really do you expect him to come off the bench and lite the scoreboard up,plus our running game against the pats was all but abandon.He needs to put Jarret on the bench until he can stop jogging routes, and put Rosario in at 3wr sets.

hopefully we can do something that hasn't been done on the vikes in a while RUN THE BALL!

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yeah but really do you expect him to come off the bench and lite the scoreboard up,plus our running game against the pats was all but abandon.He needs to put Jarret on the bench until he can stop jogging routes, and put Rosario in at 3wr sets.

hopefully we can do something that hasn't been done on the vikes in a while RUN THE BALL!

Yeah I expect him to come in and throw good passes and lead us to scores. He is the starter for an NFL team and needs to do the job or be replaced. And the reason the running game didn't work as well as hoped was because Moore couldn't throw the ball well enough to back the safeties off the line and make them respect the play action.

As for running the ball on the vikings, it won't happen unless you can pass on them first. Unless Moore can use the pass to set up the run, we are in for a rather long Sunday.

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safeties didn't make plays,there beat up d line did ty warren bust through every counter play.in 5 weeks you expect moore to move the ball up the field at ease,come on he needs a little bit more time for that.he threw well enough against the pats,some other factors played a big role in that game including penalties,drop balls,ect

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safeties didn't make plays,there beat up d line did ty warren bust through every counter play.in 5 weeks you expect moore to move the ball up the field at ease,come on he needs a little bit more time for that.he threw well enough against the pats,some other factors played a big role in that game including penalties,drop balls,ect

Seriously I make as many typos as anyone on this board, but honestly it is hard to follow your train of thought without some form of rudimentary grammar and sentence structure. This is not a Gertrude Stein stream of consciousness writing is it.

I am not trying to negate your points just trying to figure out what they are.

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Yeah I expect him to come in and throw good passes and lead us to scores. He is the starter for an NFL team and needs to do the job or be replaced.

Seriously?

And the reason the running game didn't work as well as hoped was because Moore couldn't throw the ball well enough to back the safeties off the line and make them respect the play action.

Replace Moore with Delhomme and it's basically almost every game Jake has played this year. We run at 8 and 9 in the box. We have success against teams that we dominate hard enough to make up for our QB's terrible play and our coaches thick, neanderthal skulls.

As for running the ball on the vikings, it won't happen unless you can pass on them first. Unless Moore can use the pass to set up the run, we are in for a rather long Sunday.

Just like every other Sunday under Jake, or whoever decides to play QB for this team this year. Every week it's the same.. it doesn't matter. If we can run against 5000 people in the box, and Jake doesn't throw 50 interceptions, we will win.

That's how it's been every week, boring as hell, but it doesn't change with Matt Moore in there. It just makes a lot of us a little less pissed off when Jake isn't in there because he's imploded so many times.

Matt Moore, being cheap and young, could possibly serve as some kind of stop-gap for this team next season while another QB is being groomed/found. While it's unlikely that Moore will ever be very good, or even good enough, it's more likely than the 0% chance that Jake is worth anything.

At this point I'd rather not use a QB and just direct snap the ball to the RB, because it would cut out the middle man and give us an extra blocker. We are terrible at the QB position, and the only argument for starting Jake borders on insanity.

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And people wonder why no one outside of the Carolinas respects, cares for, gives a poo about, or thinks about the Panthers.

We still have crazy fans talking about how we should be starting Jake.(or by some crazy logic that he gives us the best chance to win)

Now how can people want to be taken seriously with bullshit like this?

Just checked the calendar and lo and behold it isn't 2003. Sorry Jake doesn't give us the best chance to win, drop it.

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