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Friday 08.04 Practice Thread


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54 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

You can't use that spot elsewhere, it's an emergency QB roster spot that doesn't count to your roster total on game days:

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-pass-proposal-to-allow-teams-to-have-third-qb-active-on-game-days-wit

You gotta look at it like we have two rookie QBs this year since he didn't really do anything all of last year. We have him under contract for the next couple years for super cheap, there's no point in getting rid of him, especially if he can develop into a #2 down the line, or even into trade bait for the end of his contract.

he still counts against the 53, yes you can.

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6 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

he still counts against the 53, yes you can.

 

You aren't winning or losing because of that 53rd guy. Might as well be someone that COULD develop into an asset. It's just good bidness.

 

If you don't want to try and stash him on the PS because he will get poached. You might as well keep him on the roster. Pretty much the only two options you have.

 

I just don't get it. Just because our last coaching staff pooed the pooch, does not automatically mean our present coaching staff will make the same mistake.

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18 hours ago, KillerKat said:

he still counts against the 53, yes you can.

 

18 hours ago, Gerry Green said:

 

You aren't winning or losing because of that 53rd guy. Might as well be someone that COULD develop into an asset. It's just good bidness.

 

If you don't want to try and stash him on the PS because he will get poached. You might as well keep him on the roster. Pretty much the only two options you have.

 

I just don't get it. Just because our last coaching staff pooed the pooch, does not automatically mean our present coaching staff will make the same mistake.

Combine that with the Bryce's size possibly being an issue and the aforementioned 17-game season, the team almost has to have a QB3 on the 53. If Bryce gets hurt, that guy that was the 53rd player is going to get cut for another back-up QB anyways. Mind as well keep Corral on a cheap contract with a much improved coaching staff. If he develops into a solid QB2, then there's the reassurance of a reliable back-up to Bryce and potential trade bait.

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On 8/4/2023 at 6:34 PM, Captain Morgan said:

Brady is our swing tackle...last year was the first time he played guard, and it didn't go very well.  He may be a starting guard this year, but if someone gets hurt, I'm pretty sure we'll put him in instead of Cam.

long term, I agree. Mid-game, I think you bring in Cam to finish it out. I've never been a fan of moving your starting G to T (or C, for that matter) as it weakens 2 spots on the line. 

FWIW, I think Mays mainly played RT at Tenn.

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20 hours ago, KillerKat said:

he still counts against the 53, yes you can.

Doesn't count against 53

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-emergency-qb-rule-3rd-quarterback-2023/pcbxurweiswxq4o1ns2ubbqh

 

"During the NFL's spring meetings, owners approved a rule change to allow a third quarterback to dress on game days, which won't count toward the team's active roster limit. That means teams may not have to burn an active roster spot on a third quarterback on gamedays, which may help alleviate some other roster construction problems for the league."

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On 8/5/2023 at 6:05 AM, kungfoodude said:

Young finally understanding how bad Erving is. Welcome to the Panthers, buddy.

We already seen plenty of that.

Erving does seem to play (slightly) better on the left, but I hope we don't need him to take many snaps (if he makes the roster). That's the kind of thing that could wreck a season.

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21 minutes ago, csx said:

Doesn't count against 53

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-emergency-qb-rule-3rd-quarterback-2023/pcbxurweiswxq4o1ns2ubbqh

 

"During the NFL's spring meetings, owners approved a rule change to allow a third quarterback to dress on game days, which won't count toward the team's active roster limit. That means teams may not have to burn an active roster spot on a third quarterback on gamedays, which may help alleviate some other roster construction problems for the league."

Or not.....many conflicting articles 

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1 hour ago, csx said:

Doesn't count against 53

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-emergency-qb-rule-3rd-quarterback-2023/pcbxurweiswxq4o1ns2ubbqh

 

"During the NFL's spring meetings, owners approved a rule change to allow a third quarterback to dress on game days, which won't count toward the team's active roster limit. That means teams may not have to burn an active roster spot on a third quarterback on gamedays, which may help alleviate some other roster construction problems for the league."

That's not the "53". It's talking about the active gameday roster.

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55 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's not the "53". It's talking about the active gameday roster.

And that is 46 isn’t it? Or some number less than 53 that get a jersey for game day. You can still dress 46 plus a third qb off of your 53 list for 47 on game day. No?

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8 hours ago, mccjeff said:

And that is 46 isn’t it? Or some number less than 53 that get a jersey for game day. You can still dress 46 plus a third qb off of your 53 list for 47 on game day. No?

It was 45 the last time that rule was in effect. It changed in the last few years but I'm guessing it'll go back to 45 again.

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