my preseason 5-11 is still looking good.

[PuntJake]

10, 11, 12 wins....? come on guys, didn't you watch the end of last year and the preseason games this year? oh.... that's right.... preseason games don't mean anything....

...all i want for christmas is a new head coach, a new head coach, a new head coach.... :prrr:

[rayzor]

happy about the possibility of of getting a new coach but anyone who is happy about being right that the panthers are sucking this year is about as useful as a chunk of corn stuck in a pile of crap.

[MVP23]

I has us at 7-9/8-8.....

The only part of Preseason that matters is the first Q...We had no rhythm, and our defense was terrible..hmmm

[mav1234]

too bad the defense isn't terrible, but probably one of the better units in football. the offense is the problem.

[mr beauxjangles]

10, 11, 12 wins....? come on guys, didn't you watch the end of last year and the preseason games this year? oh.... that's right.... preseason games don't mean anything....

For every 2009 Carolina Panthers (bad preseason, bad season) there is a 2008 Detroit Lions (4-0 preseason, 0-16 season).

[Sloth]

I had 7-9

[OneBadassCat]

too bad the defense isn't terrible, but probably one of the better units in football. the offense is the problem.

Our run D has turned to trash again though. And we still can't get inside pressure. We need a pass rushing stud at DT bad.

[MaineManPanther]

Regardless, preseason games still aren't a good indicator of the regualr season.