Anybody else think we are putting to much on Bryce's plate?

[usmcpanthers]

Cam was put into the one of the worst situations ever and came out of the gate with back to back 400+ yard games.  Im not saying Bryce will do the same, but he is in a better situation and should do just fine. Even if he doesnt, we all know it takes a couple years before he will take that next step.

[CRA]

8 minutes ago, usmcpanthers said:

Cam was put into the one of the worst situations ever and came out of the gate with back to back 400+ yard games.  Im not saying Bryce will do the same, but he is in a better situation and should do just fine. Even if he doesnt, we all know it takes a couple years before he will take that next step.

Cam Newton was in a great spot. 

Double Trouble in the backfield.

Multiple pro bowlers on the OL.   

A pro bowl TE and a soon to be pro bowl TE playing in 2 TE sets 

Hall of Fame WR

Cam Newton went to a team that had a horrible record.   The talent for Cam was far from horrible. 

 

[usmcpanthers]

23 hours ago, CRA said:

Cam Newton was in a great spot. 

Double Trouble in the backfield.

Multiple pro bowlers on the OL.   

A pro bowl TE and a soon to be pro bowl TE playing in 2 TE sets 

Hall of Fame WR

Cam Newton went to a team that had a horrible record.   The talent for Cam was far from horrible. 

 

I should have elaborated, I was more going after the coaching.  Chud force fed everything to Cam, Cam even said it was like a firehose.  Cam alluded to just winging it in the beginning and being himself. We all know QB coaches never solved his relying  on his back foot problem and never worked on improving accuracy. Then we never truly crafted the offense for Cam, within year 3 most weapons were gone, oline depleted. OC's constantly in flux, and Rivera handcuffing of Cam, which allowed him to get plastered over and over. Rivera ran that "Cam save me" well until it went dry.  Massive failures from those regimes, we should have had 1-2 super bowls during that era.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, usmcpanthers said:

I should have elaborated, I was more going after the coaching.  Chud force fed everything to Cam, Cam even said it was like a firehose.  Cam alluded to just winging it in the beginning and being himself. We all know QB coaches never solved his relying  on his back foot problem and never worked on improving accuracy. Then we never truly crafted the offense for Cam, within year 3 most weapons were gone, oline depleted. OC's constantly in flux, and Rivera handcuffing of Cam, which allowed him to get plastered over and over. Rivera ran that "Cam save me" well until it went dry.  Massive failures from those regimes, we should have had 1-2 super bowls during that era.

I've said before, and still say, that Mike Shula did a good job as Newton's quarterback coach.

His being promoted to OC was a huge mistake, though.

[poundaway]

Sanders was in a great position for a RB last year with an awesome OL and QB who can run to draw the linebackers.    We will be a good test to see how good he truly is.

I would feel a whole lot better if we kept Foreman as well but he wanted   RB#1.     I would feel better knowing there is another RB there before we put Chuba-oops I dropped the ball again-Hubbard on the field. 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, poundaway said:

Sanders was in a great position for a RB last year with an awesome OL and QB who can run to draw the linebackers.    We will be a good test to see how good he truly is.

I would feel a whole lot better if we kept Foreman as well but he wanted   RB#1.     I would feel better knowing there is another RB there before we put Chuba-oops I dropped the ball again-Hubbard on the field. 

Foreman frankly earned a ticket back to be the early down RB IMO.  But that's the NFL.  Who you know is going to matter a as roleplaying vet.  New staff was going to be bad news for dudes like him. 

[DennisM1]

This is a padded practice which most simulates real life game action and As I said before.. it was never a question of too much for Bryce but actually not ENOUGH WEAPONS for Bryce I'm afraid he's being set up to fail by these inadequate weapons 

[Mr. Scot]

26 minutes ago, DennisM1 said:

This is a padded practice which most simulates real life game action and As I said before.. it was never a question of too much for Bryce but actually not ENOUGH WEAPONS for Bryce I'm afraid he's being set up to fail by these inadequate weapons 

Oh sure. And hey, it's not like it's too early to make this kind of judgment or anything

[Pup McBarky]

2 hours ago, DennisM1 said:

This is a padded practice which most simulates real life game action and As I said before.. it was never a question of too much for Bryce but actually not ENOUGH WEAPONS for Bryce I'm afraid he's being set up to fail by these inadequate weapons 

If only our mediocre-at-best coaching staff would take your sage advice.

[NAS]

Nope not too much

 

[CamWhoaaCam]

Pressure bust pipes.

 

Bryce has been under pressure since High School. He's been the #1 player on every level. We didn't trade up to the #1 pick if we didn't believe he could carry a heavy load.

 

I truly believe staying healthy will be the biggest hurdle for Young. I think his talent speaks for itself.

[DennisM1]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Oh sure. And hey, it's not like it's too early to make this kind of judgment or anything

Training camp ends next week... its been plenty of time to come to this conculsion 

[DennisM1]

1 hour ago, Pup McBarky said:

If only our mediocre-at-best coaching staff would take your sage advice.

My fault my fault I forgot the coaching staff picks all the players and signs them too 

[Davidson Deac II]

On 8/5/2023 at 2:06 PM, Pup McBarky said:

If only our mediocre-at-best coaching staff would take your sage advice.

I think DennisM1 might be Matt Rhule.