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[MechaZain]

16 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

He’s not in Garrett’s league mate

Year 8 Myles Garrett sure. He was not way better than Burns when he signed that deal. Plus inflation and best believe $25m is the floor. 

[mrcompletely11]

17 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Absolutely, but I don't see Burns being willing to go anywhere near that low.

Not at all relevant.

It's a factoid

[WhoKnows]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He was also drafted in 2020 at the end of the 3rd round

So a round after YGM?

[WhoKnows]

1 hour ago, MechaZain said:

Year 8 Myles Garrett sure. He was not way better than Burns when he signed that deal. Plus inflation and best believe $25m is the floor. 

Garrett’s only played 6 seasons. He was drafted 2 years before Burns. At this same time Garrett had 42.5 sacks in 51 games to Burns 38 sacks in 64 games. Burns has played almost a season more games in his first four years. Garrett was also named to the All-pro team twice and he took another step in year 5 and 6. Hopefully Burns takes the next step as well but he is a tier below Garrett even just in the first four years. Inflation will put him in the same tier contract wise.

Edited July 20, 2023 by WhoKnows

[MechaZain]

12 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Garrett’s only played 6 seasons. He was drafted 2 years before Burns. At this same time Garrett had 42.5 sacks in 51 games to Burns 38 sacks in 64 games. Burns has played almost a season more games in his first four years. Garrett was also named to the All-pro team twice and he took another step in year 5 and 6. Hopefully Burns takes the next step as well but he is a tier below Garrett even just in the first four years. Inflation will put him in the same tier contract wise.

Garrett was extended before his 4th season but youe point stands. Meant year 7, my bad. 

[csx]

On a per game basis Garett's stats are notably better than Burns over the first same number of years.

Sacks, Tackles, Tackles for Loss, QB Hits

[Beast_3000]

8 hours ago, csx said:

On a per game basis Garett's stats are notably better than Burns over the first same number of years.

Sacks, Tackles, Tackles for Loss, QB Hits

Agreed, the only argument  Burns camp can make is that Burns has been playing out of position his entire career and made it work. He should really thrive in the TJ Watt role due to the complete  3-4 switch. 

[csx]

9 hours ago, csx said:

On a per game basis Garett's stats are notably better than Burns over the first same number of years.

Sacks, Tackles, Tackles for Loss, QB Hits

To clarify I meant over the first 3 years which was after which Garrett got a new contract 

[SmokinwithWilly]

12 hours ago, Beast_3000 said:

Agreed, the only argument  Burns camp can make is that Burns has been playing out of position his entire career and made it work. He should really thrive in the TJ Watt role due to the complete  3-4 switch. 

But do you reset the market based on hope that he will perform at a higher level in a new position? That feels like a very Hurneyeque thing to do. 

The Panthers put themselves in this position turning down 2 1sts and a 2nd. Not that they should or shouldn't have taken that trade, but that's a lot of value. 

Burns is going to get paid no doubt. I just hope we don't ridiculously overpay for a player that has yet to show he can consistently stop the run or set the edge.