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1 hour ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Jenkins won't be going in. The team was calling it addition by subtraction after he was shipped off.

Time heals all wounds. Agreed I don’t expect him to ever make it but no doubt he’s the 2nd best defensive lineman this franchise ever had. The defense was just different when he was healthy.

I will also say when they teased the original hall of honor selections back in 2019, he was in the video. Him and Chris gamble were the two surprises to me which is why I included them.

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2 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Peppers, Luke, Olsen, TD, and Cam when he retires. That should be it for awhile.

I also think Muhammad and Kalil are not arguable. I also think bates is a lock but can see an argument against. I honestly cannot see one against the other 2. Kalil was a better lineman than gross and Muhammad had more of an impact than walls.

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I think Peppers and Luke are by FAR the best players up.  Not even close.    

but I think they let Thomas Davis in before both of them.    So I will guess TD and Kalil to hit the O and D combo. 

I frankly think they let too many in already.   Think the bar should of been higher initially. 

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2 hours ago, NJPanthers12 said:

Time heals all wounds. Agreed I don’t expect him to ever make it but no doubt he’s the 2nd best defensive lineman this franchise ever had. The defense was just different when he was healthy.

I will also say when they teased the original hall of honor selections back in 2019, he was in the video. Him and Chris gamble were the two surprises to me which is why I included them.

I will say I liked Jenkins, especially when he was healthy. He was a force in that middle that had to be addressed. With that in mind, is it the Ring of Honor, Panther Hall of Fame, or Panther Superstar of the Game? I guess it's all up to interpretation. 

Another poster mentioned the blocked kick in Tampa, and I agree 100%. That was monumental. Defending champs beaten on their home turf by a bunch of unknowns. But the reality is I don't think players get honored for a singular moment.

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2 hours ago, stratocatter said:

Jenkins was missed big time. He should go in on that crazy kick block TB game alone. 
 

I’d like to see TD and Luke go in together. 

Agreed. 

As big a moment as that was, beyond that, was Jenkins much better than his replacement, Maake Kemoeatu, or about the same, or a little under?

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6 hours ago, NJPanthers12 said:

Just a breakdown of who is in, who is eligible, and who is deserving.

1. Mike McCormack - Inducted in 1997

2. Sam Mills - Inducted in 1998

3. Jake Delhomme - Inducted in 2019

4. Jordan Gross - Inducted in 2019

5. Steve Smith Sr. - Inducted in 2019

6. Wesley Walls - Inducted in 2019

David Tepper made a rule that you cannot be eligible until 2 years after retirement which would make Cam ineligible. In my opinion the following players should be locks and the 2 are definitely coming from this group.

1. Michael Bates

2. Thomas Davis Sr.

3. Ryan Kalil

4. Luke Kuechly

5. Muhsin Muhammad

6. Greg Olsen

7. Julius Peppers

I can’t see how it’s not Luke and Pep, especially with Peppers likely entering the HOF this year. With that said it seems silly to me to not put TD and Olsen in, along with the other 4.

other players I can see making it some day are Kasay, Minter, Rucker, CJ, Jenkins, Gamble, Stew, and Greene.

 

Kasay should be in for sure. Did they set a limit for how many they would do per year? Otherwise I don’t see the point in waiting for any of the guys you mentioned.

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59 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Agreed. 

As big a moment as that was, beyond that, was Jenkins much better than his replacement, Maake Kemoeatu, or about the same, or a little under?

Kris Jenkins was a 2x All Pro who wrecked game plans in his prime. 

Kemoeatu never even made a Pro Bowl

A healthy and motivated Jenkins was on another planet IMO than Kemo.   The window was small though. Kemo the more consistent player over a longer period. 

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