2023 Off-Season Thread

[KatsAzz]

13 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Then we get 4M in cap and a huge trading chip. Bigger than either Pesce or Skjei this season. Now is not the season to be trading pieces. Since bettman absolutely fugged the cap the past few years.

Posted 13 hours ago

I agree that now is not the season to be trading pieces.

[DavidEng]

4 hours ago, panthers81 said:

Why would Toronto want to trade Nylander? Who would we send back the other way? Pesce?

I doubt we have a chance to get Nylander. The bigger point as KillerKat quoted the stats from the article is Canes are missing offensive firepower. And Karlsson sure as hell isn’t the answer to that.

Heres more on the Nylander situation.

https://nhltradetalk.com/william-nylander-trade-talk-the-weight-of-an-unsigned-season/

Edited July 17, 2023 by DavidEng

[Anybodyhome]

The leafs added Tyler Bertuzzi, Ryan Reaves and Max Domi so far this off season. This adds a physical dimension to a team that was similar to Carolina in that there wasn't the gritty guy to protect Aho. The Leafs had no one to get nasty while protecting Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner.

Granted, the Leafs are now in salary cap hell and need to dump $8M (LTIRs not included; $3.2M with LTIR). Is Nylander (as yet unsigned for the 2024-2025 season and carrying a $7M cap hit) available? He might be.

[DavidEng]

2 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

The leafs added Tyler Bertuzzi, Ryan Reaves and Max Domi so far this off season. This adds a physical dimension to a team that was similar to Carolina in that there wasn't the gritty guy to protect Aho. The Leafs had no one to get nasty while protecting Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner.

Granted, the Leafs are now in salary cap hell and need to dump $8M (LTIRs not included; $3.2M with LTIR). Is Nylander (as yet unsigned for the 2024-2025 season and carrying a $7M cap hit) available? He might be.

I don’t know. wish he would be. Talk of them letting him ride with no extension to have a chance at the cup. I guess they would have to dump money somewhere else if cap space is an issue. That’s quite a gamble though because they would no longer have trade value in him after next season when he becomes a UFA.

Edited July 17, 2023 by DavidEng

[backINblack28]

3 hours ago, DavidEng said:

I doubt we have a chance to get Nylander. The bigger point as KillerKat quoted the stats from the article is Canes are missing offensive firepower. And Karlsson sure as hell isn’t the answer to that.

Heres more on the Nylander situation.

https://nhltradetalk.com/william-nylander-trade-talk-the-weight-of-an-unsigned-season/

Nylander just overvalues tf out of himself so unless he wants to come here with a bridge deal idk what they're going to do cause that he wants 10m is gonna hurt his trade value so bad.

I get that we need FORWARD who scores, but Karlsson had 25 goals/101 points last year. We would be slotted in easy as the number one scoring D and 25 goals helps idgaf where it comes from. it woulda been good for 3rd on the team last season.

[panthers81]

9 minutes ago, backINblack28 said:

Nylander just overvalues tf out of himself so unless he wants to come here with a bridge deal idk what they're going to do cause that he wants 10m is gonna hurt his trade value so bad.

I get that we need FORWARD who scores, but Karlsson had 25 goals/101 points last year. We would be slotted in easy as the number one scoring D and 25 goals helps idgaf where it comes from. it woulda been good for 3rd on the team last season.

If you look at his whole body of work since 2018 he's usually around 45-50 games played and around a point per game. This past year was a career year...huge risk with him is his health. IF he stays healthy....I like the trade LOL!

[MillionDollarCam]

I’d love Nylander but don’t know how we’d get him. Pesce for Nylander makes a lot of sense but I don’t see Pesce waiving his NTC to go to Canada.

It’s starting to feel like we’ll lose any trade that involves Pesce simply because he can eliminate have of the destinations.

[Harbingers]

4 hours ago, DavidEng said:

I doubt we have a chance to get Nylander. The bigger point as KillerKat quoted the stats from the article is Canes are missing offensive firepower. And Karlsson sure as hell isn’t the answer to that.

Heres more on the Nylander situation.

https://nhltradetalk.com/william-nylander-trade-talk-the-weight-of-an-unsigned-season/

Isn’t Nylander the lazy one? If so I don’t think he’d fit this team. Heard he’s a bit of a Prima donna too. 

[Harbingers]

44 minutes ago, backINblack28 said:

Nylander just overvalues tf out of himself so unless he wants to come here with a bridge deal idk what they're going to do cause that he wants 10m is gonna hurt his trade value so bad.

I get that we need FORWARD who scores, but Karlsson had 25 goals/101 points last year. We would be slotted in easy as the number one scoring D and 25 goals helps idgaf where it comes from. it woulda been good for 3rd on the team last season.

Do not want Nylander unless he’s willing to completely buy into rods system. He’s stupidly lazy a majority of the time. Especially on defense. That’s not going to fly in man defense scheme. 

[Harbingers]

14 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I’d love Nylander but don’t know how we’d get him. Pesce for Nylander makes a lot of sense but I don’t see Pesce waiving his NTC to go to Canada.

It’s starting to feel like we’ll lose any trade that involves Pesce simply because he can eliminate have of the destinations.

This poo isn’t going to fly on a heavy deep forechecking team. And this was a playoff game too. 
 

Also sorry the edit again but, That’s worse than some Necas slack play. At least Necas knows to backcheck too.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Harbingers

[Harbingers]

Another one. 
 

Also it’s noted that this season the leafs played a 2-3 offense and he’s the high forward. So maybe that’s why he’s so timid up by the net. That gave him great point success in the regular season. But these are both playoff games. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Harbingers

[Harbingers]

If I could pick any trade piece winger in the Nylander price range. I’d want Kempe realistically, though actually I’d really want Kuzmenko but there ain’t no way in hell we’d get him, especially since he’s on a bridge and just resigned with Vancouver. First season over here from Russia for 74 points with 39 goals… on Vancouver. Here’s to dreaming. For those that aren’t that familiar with him he’s a tip master who can also rocket the puck when need be. Great positional sense. Maybe we can rent him at the trade deadline. 
 

There are just little to no realistic options in that range when it comes down to it this year. All the high point options are comfortable either on near contender teams(Washington, Pittsburg to name a few) or on playoff teams. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Harbingers

[Anybodyhome]

Kempe I named back toward the end of June as a possible fit. As well as Troy Terry and Tomas Tatar.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Anybodyhome

[Harbingers]

7 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Kempe I named back toward the end of June as a possible fit. As well as Troy Terry and Tomas Tatar.

Tatar had an excellent +/- last year. +41 or something. But it looks like his offensive play is falling off. I’ll need to watch Terry’s highlights. But if you think he’s a fit he probably would be. 
 

I could definitely live with Kempe though. Not sure id trade Pesce or skjei to acquire him though. Kuzmenko? I’d trade both if that’s what it took.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Harbingers