2023 Off-Season Thread

[MillionDollarCam]

Canes have seen a few guys head out.

Zach Sawchenko headed to Vancouver

MacKenzie MacEachern headed to St. Louis

Max Pacioretty headed to Washington.

[carpanfan96]

Bunting adds scoring to the team as well as some nastiness, which we can all agree we needed. 112 points and 46 goals over the last two seasons is nothing to sneeze at. Orlov improves the defense no matter who he replaces on the 2nd line and he gives the team some flexibility to go after karlsson and a goal scorer. 

[Harbingers]

16 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Canes have seen a few guys head out.

Zach Sawchenko headed to Vancouver

MacKenzie MacEachern headed to St. Louis

Max Pacioretty headed to Washington.

Should heave kept Each. 

[DavidEng]

35 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Killorn headed to the Ducks. Big name off the board.

Darn.

[DavidEng]

Karlsson has 3 teams going after him, Penguins, Seattle, Canes. If Pesce goes I don’t see how the Canes can get him for the  ~7 mil in cap space we would have left without some creative wrangling to avoid cap limit.

[MillionDollarCam]

Just now, DavidEng said:

Karlsson has 3 teams going after him, Penguins, Seattle, Canes. If Pesce goes I don’t see how the Canes can get him for the  ~7 mil in cap space we would have left without some creative wrangling to avoid cap limit.

It would be a complicated deal. 50% retained by San Jose and 25% retained by a third team. And from what I’ve seen it’s down to Pittsburgh or Carolina with Pittsburgh being the favorite.

 

[MillionDollarCam]

Just my thought process.

If we don’t get Karlsson then you ride out Pesce’s contract this year. Regardless, Skjei gets moved cause you don’t pay Orlov to play on the third pairing.

So defensively I think we’re looking at:

Slavin - Burns

Orlov - Karlsson/Pesce

Chatfield - TDA

The 7th defenseman doesn’t really matter but maybe go pick up Marc Staal for cheap since he’s a lefty.

In moving Skjei, I think you attach picks and prospects to him to get a 30 goal scorer.

So my hypothetical team would be:

Svechnikov - Aho - Jarvis

Trade - Kotkaniemi - Necas

Bunting - Staal - Fast

Noesen - Martinook - Teravainen

Drury

Slavin - Burns

Orlov - Karlsson/Pesce

Chatfield - TDA

Staal

Andersen

Raanta

Kochetkov

[DavidEng]

1 minute ago, MillionDollarCam said:

It would be a complicated deal. 50% retained by San Jose and 25% retained by a third team. And from what I’ve seen it’s down to Pittsburgh or Carolina with Pittsburgh being the favorite.

 

Yeah I’ve seen those tweets. Why would San Jose be willing to retain 50%? With 3 teams after him (or 2 depending on the speculator) I don’t think that’s gonna happen. Karlsson is a $11.5 mil AAV contract. Also saw a tweet that a deal isn’t  close so expect something in an hour haha.

[DavidEng]

Getting Karlsson means we’re not gonna get a scoring forward and counting on our defense to score. 

[carpanfan96]

San Jose doesn't want to retain on Karlsson deal, so Hurricanes are probably out of it. 

[Harbingers]

3 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

San Jose doesn't want to retain on Karlsson deal, so Hurricanes are probably out of it. 

Which is probably why we went out and got Orlov. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by Harbingers

[carpanfan96]

45 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Which is probably why we went out and got Orlov. 

Probably so and I don't hate it. Especially if it allows them to move one of the 2nd pairing for a goal scorer. 

[MillionDollarCam]

53 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

San Jose doesn't want to retain on Karlsson deal, so Hurricanes are probably out of it. 

They are going to have to, there’s not a team in the universe that can fit $11.5M in their cap for the next four years.

They’ll end up retaining 35% and depending on who he goes to, a third time might have to come in and retain an additional third.

I’d imagine San Jose doesn’t want to take a bunch of salary back so I don’t know how Pittsburgh is in the conversation since they have no cap space whatsoever.

If Carolina were to acquire Karlsson then I think it would like like this:

San Jose Receives - Picks, Prospects

Third Team Receives - Pesce

Carolina Receives - Karlsson, Picks from Third Team

San Jose Would retain 35%, the third team would retain 35%, and Carolina would get Karlsson at $4.025M AAV over the next four years. $4.025 AAV is the contract that Pesce is currently on.

San Jose probably doesn’t want salary back because they are in a rebuild so we give them picks and prospects and we give Pesce to a team that’s interested in him in exchange for taking on some of Karlsson’s salary.

The deal could also be simplified if San Jose retained 50% on Karlsson. It would have to be something like Pesce and Drury for Karlsson and then San Jose could flip Pesce at the deadline for picks.

Edited July 1, 2023 by MillionDollarCam

[carpanfan96]

2 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

They are going to have to, there’s not a team in the universe that can fit $11.5M in their cap for the next four years.

They’ll end up retaining 35% and depending on who he goes to, a third time might have to come in and retain an additional third.

I’d imagine San Jose doesn’t want to take a bunch of salary back so I don’t know how Pittsburgh is in the conversation since they have no cap space whatsoever.

If Carolina were to acquire Karlsson then I think it would like like this:

San Jose Receives - Picks, Prospects

Third Team Receives - Pesce

Carolina Receives - Karlsson, Picks from Third Team

San Jose Would retain 35%, the third team would retain 35%, and Carolina would get Karlsson at $4.025M AAV over the next four years. $4.025 AAV is the contract that Pesce is currently on.

San Jose probably doesn’t want salary back because they are in a rebuild so we give them picks and prospects and we give Pesce to a team that’s interested in him in exchange for taking on some of Karlsson’s salary.

That's the rumor right now, they have said no to retaining much if any of his contract.