Corral deserves a fair shot

[Aussie Tank]

Where’s all this fire for our other 3rd string players at other positions? We’ve got our Future in Young and our insurance/mentor for the next couple years in Dalton. Where does a 3rd round injury prone QB (in a terrible QB draft) who looked garbage last preseason plus he already sulked when Bryce was drafted fit in? 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You can say the same about Corral.

 

Excuse me for having "hope" in Bryce Young. When we trade what we did for him I think the coaches also believe he will be that guy.

 

Nothing against Corral, im just trying to figure out why people think he's in the picture. This will be Bryce Young's team moving forward.

He's in the picture because he's still a Panther at this moment. BY has done nothing at the NFL level yet. How his game and size translates to the pros remains to be seen. Corral has done nothing either and hasn't had a real opportunity to do so. 

I don't care if it's Corral, BY or Dalton. I'm sick of this team losing. Corral was given a poo opportunity from Rhule. Mental reps are a joke, especially from Rhule's staff. Matt Rhule made Adam Gase look like a damn savant. 

We've seen all to well that being a highly drafted QB is no guarantee of success. We can't lose objectivity just because of where either were drafted. I'm not down on BY. He's just about the same as Corral right now in his NFL development. I'm not high on Corral. They're both very young QBs and whoever gives us the best chance to win should be given the reigns to the team. I feel pretty much the same about both of them. 

We have the benefit of having 2 young QBs on rookie contracts with one of the best staffs, on paper, to develop them. If we can develop both, it's possible to trade the other like NE did with Jimmy G. If BY busts and Corral is the guy, we're good. If Corral busts and BY is the guy, we're good. If they both bust, move on. If they both kick ass, trade the 2nd best, get some assets and get better. At this point draft assets spent are a sunk cost. Let the best man start. Win some games and start making some playoff runs and for the love of God, have back to back winning seasons. 

[App Panther]

I'm a Young fan, but we'd be dumb not to hope Corral isn't successful here, whatever that is. Either a very competent backup or trade bait. 

Odds are against him though and a good chance he is cut. 

Edited May 20, 2023 by App Panther

[jfra78]

5 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I don't live on "what if's"...

 

What's wrong with me believing BY will live up to the hype?

 

 

I guess we should only have 1 qb on the roster then, actually we don't need backups at any position

[Green-Ghost]

On 5/19/2023 at 7:39 PM, Jmac said:

 

[PNW_PantherMan]

It’s not really about what anyone deserves.  But it would be stupid to not see what he’s got.  We traded up for him and he hasn’t gotten much of a chance to show his stuff.

[Green-Ghost]

On 5/19/2023 at 7:39 PM, Jmac said:

Rhule and his clown show put the kid behind the eight ball from the get go. Yes he is a third round pick and in the few snaps he did get looked lost.

The staff needs to see what he can do and actually give him a fair shot. If he shats the bed, so be it. 

Give him reps and a full camp and see what happens. Dalton doesn't need much to hit the ground running. Need to do the right thing and see what they can do with the kid.

I am an Ole Miss grad.  I would love to see Corral get a fair shot.  My complaint is, I have seen a lot of talented Ole Miss quarterbacks fail in the NFL.  The exception being Eli Manning.

the reason they fail is due to Mental issues. Corral may not be mentally ready.  One of the tests is how you play in adversity.  Corral had a chance to play during preseason, last year.  Sometimes you have to prove yourself, despite playing for coaches, such as Rhules.

I do think Corral has talent and a lot of potential.  I am anxious to see how he plays, this preseason.  Meanwhile I still wonder where Chad Kelly is.  Last I heard, he was in the house of somebody he doesn’t know, watching television.

[jfra78]

32 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Can you read?

 

I clearly said Darnold will be the backup QB.

I guess you can't read.  What I quoted says nothing about Darnold, just that your not worried about what ifs.  You're clearly also not concerned about having the best players on the team possible. If Corral gets more reps and becomes an asset to the team, even as a third string, then it benefits the team.

Edited May 21, 2023 by jfra78

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

That's good man I hope Corral can get the backup spot. If he does that's great. But this is the Bryce Young era.

I prefer to be a fan of the team and not just one player, but you be you

[SmokinwithWilly]

50 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I can't help you bud. It's not hard to realize what we had to give up for Bryce Young he's going to be our guy. Im not about to debate Matt freaking Corral being our QB of the future.

 

We can agree to disagree on this.

I'm not saying MC is the future. But not giving him an opportunity to compete is downright foolish. I think we just look at things differently and that's OK. 1st or 250th, draft position doesn't matter, only results.  You start the guy who gives you the best opportunity to win, no matter where he was drafted. 

And FYI, I don't think MC beats out BY. My hope is we develop him and he shows off enough to be able to trade him like NE with Jimmy G. I don't think he will accept a backup role if he proves to be a decent starter, whether by injury or playing when the game is out of reach. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

13 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Who is not giving him the opportunity to compete?

 

Bro you sound crazy right now. If he proves to be better than Darnold he will win the backup job point blank.

 

 

Since Darnold isn't even on the team I'd say he already has him beat. 

[Martin]

59 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'm not saying MC is the future. But not giving him an opportunity to compete is downright foolish. I think we just look at things differently and that's OK. 1st or 250th, draft position doesn't matter, only results.  You start the guy who gives you the best opportunity to win, no matter where he was drafted. 

And FYI, I don't think MC beats out BY. My hope is we develop him and he shows off enough to be able to trade him like NE with Jimmy G. I don't think he will accept a backup role if he proves to be a decent starter, whether by injury or playing when the game is out of reach. 

What do you think of in terms if reps when you say give him an opportunity to compete? I would hate to take reps away from Young, so I’m curious what you think it would look like?

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, Martin said:

What do you think of in terms if reps when you say give him an opportunity to compete? I would hate to take reps away from Young, so I’m curious what you think it would look like?

BY should get the majority to start camp, if he's ready to take them, which he should be. AD and MC should split what's left. I would think something like a 65/15(AD)/20(MC) split. Depending on how they respond and progress or regress, adjust accordingly. Rinse and repeat. 

[Ricky Prickles]

On 5/19/2023 at 8:52 PM, JVic said:

Corral deserves the same number of reps and chance that I do. Zero. 

Wow, glad you will never be a coach or GM as your Bryce Young groupie sensitive feelings hurt easily get in the way of your rational judgement. Yes, by this guys BRILLIANT statement lets never give Corral any reps or chance so he can NEVER have a chance to develop into a possible future great backup or trade bait to get a pick out of. Your being so threatened by any younger QB on the roster that you feel could be competition to our true number one (Bryce) is so ridiculous and dumb it causes you want to hurt the teams chances of potentially finding or developing a future backup QB or get trade bait.

You do know if we just throw away Corral without giving him a single chance to develop because your feelings are sensitive that means another younger QB may come in and he would have to get a few reps and chance as well to develop into a backup right? You do realize that your whole jealous threatened sensitive little feeling mindset would apply to any future new QB right? With your general philosophy, I guess we should just run with one QB on the roster (Bryce) and forget everyone else at all so you don't feel threatened by other QB's. If Bryce ever has to miss a game, I guess we can just suit of McCown again right? Such a stupid and baby statement you have here I cant even believe you had anyone dumb enough to support it with a pie or beer. Shows their mentality as well I guess.