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Panthers over/under win totals

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39 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Prepare for disappointment lol

LOL - so many of you guys were overly optimistic with Rhule and even Rivera's latter years when I cautioned against it.  Now when it's actually time to be optimistic, you want to be Debbie downers haha

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I don't see us being a 5 win team in any circumstances. Take Young out, even, and we are still better than that. 

I don't know why people assume switching the D up is going to be immune to issues we historically see when things like that happen. Rose colored glasses. Almost no one warns that growth may be slowed down due to that side of the ball. 

I have to take away points on that so even if they improve the offense they still sort of tread water there, not sinking but not doing the breaststroke either. 

Other teams are going to be better. Atlanta an NO both could be problems. 

I am gonna say we may be able to steal a couple early because there won't be great film on the new schemes. That might get us out of the under territory since I feel they set it a bit low to start with, so I guess if push comes to shove I would have to go with betting the over. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, NAS said:

LOL - so many of you guys were overly optimistic with Rhule and even Rivera's latter years when I cautioned against it.  Now when it's actually time to be optimistic, you want to be Debbie downers haha

For me its just so much change with a rookie QB, that I think we start slow.   With a front loaded schedule, it is not out of the realm of possibility that we start 0-6 and things get ugly around here.  I'm not predicting that, but if we choke again on prime time, its possible. 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, poundaway said:

For me its just so much change with a rookie QB, that I think we start slow.   With a front loaded schedule, it is not out of the realm of possibility that we start 0-6 and things get ugly around here.  I'm not predicting that, but if we choke again on prime time, its possible. 

 

 

New staff + rookie QB = rough waters for a while. I don't think we'll lose the first 6, but it wouldn't shock me. The OL will be the most stable and effective group to begin the season and that means our running game should thrive. Everything else is kinda up in the air and while it looks good on paper, we'll just have to wait and see if our hope in this staff is justified.

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14 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

The OL will be the most stable and effective group to begin the season and that means our running game should thrive.

And we're starting down 1 OLman and another coming off injury. 

Last year we were 16th in YBC, 6th in pressure% and  6th in pocket time.  Everyone says our run blocking is better than pass pro, but the stats tell a different story.

 

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7 hours ago, NAS said:

LOL - so many of you guys were overly optimistic with Rhule and even Rivera's latter years when I cautioned against it.  Now when it's actually time to be optimistic, you want to be Debbie downers haha

Not to be a downer, but I’m going Saints for the division this year and us taking next year. For the record, I was never optimistic about Rhule

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37 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Not to be a downer, but I’m going Saints for the division this year and us taking next year. For the record, I was never optimistic about Rhule

That’s fine, I just think we will be middle of the table in conference and hopefully have a winning record. I don’t think the division will be as down this year and if Carr actually plays well, the Saints will be a tough out. 

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12 hours ago, poundaway said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/draftkings-releases-point-spreads-for-all-17-panthers-games

 

Draft kings has us favored in 5 games.  One is the home opener Saint's primetime game, by -1.

 

I'll add to that...sweep the Falcons and Bucs, and win vs Titans, Bears, Pack.  Gets us to 10.  Could be another surprise in there somewhere too.

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On 5/15/2023 at 3:01 PM, ladypanther said:

This coaching staff could have gotten a few more wins out of last year's team.  I am doing the ultimate positive homer thing and saying I expect at least 10 wins.

I like the way you think but

17-0 is better

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This coming season is a total mystery to me. On paper we should be remarkably, amazingly better than last season. 

On paper.

On field turf... that's the real question. And we won't have an inkling of how this is going to work until say the first or second pre-season game at the earliest, if even that soon.

Honestly, we won't really have a reason to consider ourselves contenders until Reich's second season. There was a lot of stink on the Rhule regime and that doesn't just air out quickly. 

Still, stranger things have happened. No one thought the Giants would be competitive last year, especially considering the strength of their  division. And the NFCSouth is as weak as dishwater right now...

 

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