Panthers over/under win totals

[poundaway]

14 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

The OL will be the most stable and effective group to begin the season and that means our running game should thrive.

And we're starting down 1 OLman and another coming off injury. 

Last year we were 16th in YBC, 6th in pressure% and  6th in pocket time.  Everyone says our run blocking is better than pass pro, but the stats tell a different story.

 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

7 hours ago, NAS said:

LOL - so many of you guys were overly optimistic with Rhule and even Rivera's latter years when I cautioned against it.  Now when it's actually time to be optimistic, you want to be Debbie downers haha

Not to be a downer, but I’m going Saints for the division this year and us taking next year. For the record, I was never optimistic about Rhule

[NAS]

37 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Not to be a downer, but I’m going Saints for the division this year and us taking next year. For the record, I was never optimistic about Rhule

That’s fine, I just think we will be middle of the table in conference and hopefully have a winning record. I don’t think the division will be as down this year and if Carr actually plays well, the Saints will be a tough out. 

[poundaway]

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/draftkings-releases-point-spreads-for-all-17-panthers-games

 

Draft kings has us favored in 5 games.  One is the home opener Saint's primetime game, by -1.

 

[ladypanther]

12 hours ago, poundaway said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/draftkings-releases-point-spreads-for-all-17-panthers-games

 

Draft kings has us favored in 5 games.  One is the home opener Saint's primetime game, by -1.

 

I'll add to that...sweep the Falcons and Bucs, and win vs Titans, Bears, Pack.  Gets us to 10.  Could be another surprise in there somewhere too.

Edited May 20, 2023 by ladypanther

[DeeJay]

On 5/15/2023 at 3:01 PM, ladypanther said:

This coaching staff could have gotten a few more wins out of last year's team.  I am doing the ultimate positive homer thing and saying I expect at least 10 wins.

I like the way you think but

17-0 is better

[DIO84]

I forecast a regular old 7 win season for us.  A typical Panthers season. 

[Khyber53]

This coming season is a total mystery to me. On paper we should be remarkably, amazingly better than last season. 

On paper.

On field turf... that's the real question. And we won't have an inkling of how this is going to work until say the first or second pre-season game at the earliest, if even that soon.

Honestly, we won't really have a reason to consider ourselves contenders until Reich's second season. There was a lot of stink on the Rhule regime and that doesn't just air out quickly. 

Still, stranger things have happened. No one thought the Giants would be competitive last year, especially considering the strength of their  division. And the NFCSouth is as weak as dishwater right now...

 

[rayzor]

On 5/19/2023 at 9:59 AM, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Prepare for disappointment lol

disappointed (but not surprised) in that take.

stay miserable.

[PantherKyle]

On 5/17/2023 at 1:13 PM, SOJA said:

But got damn do I want us to win a lot of games just so these fuging smug ass bear fans will shut the fug up

That TNF is big for our fanbase pride.

[KSpan]

1 hour ago, rayzor said:

disappointed (but not surprised) in that take.

stay miserable.

What's miserable about acknowledging a probable reality? My expectations are pretty low largely because a complete overhaul rarely yields major results in year 1. Years 2 and 3 yeah, I fully expect the team to be much improved, but this year... nah. Let's see some upward trend throughout the season and actual competent NFL strategy and I'll be set. Hardly a miserable state of mind and, if anything, makes it much easier to be impressed/delighted.

Y'all are the ones setting yourselves up for some potential misery.

[rayzor]

14 minutes ago, KSpan said:

What's miserable about acknowledging a probable reality? My expectations are pretty low largely because a complete overhaul rarely yields major results in year 1. Years 2 and 3 yeah, I fully expect the team to be much improved, but this year... nah. Let's see some upward trend throughout the season and actual competent NFL strategy and I'll be set. Hardly a miserable state of mind and, if anything, makes it much easier to be impressed/delighted.

Y'all are the ones setting yourselves up for some potential misery.

if it's going to work, you'll see it year one. you have the right coach...you'll see results quickly. if it takes 2 or more years, you probably don't have the right coach.

complete overhauls don't take 2-3 years to succeed anymore. you see the fruits year one and year 2-3 you likely see a solid playoff run. you have the right QB (even a rookie one) and you see bigger success earlier.

[mrcompletely11]

36 minutes ago, rayzor said:

if it's going to work, you'll see it year one. you have the right coach...you'll see results quickly. if it takes 2 or more years, you probably don't have the right coach.

complete overhauls don't take 2-3 years to succeed anymore. you see the fruits year one and year 2-3 you likely see a solid playoff run. you have the right QB (even a rookie one) and you see bigger success earlier.

100%

 

I think in regards to young we should know rather quickly if this is going to work.  8 weeks or so would be my guess.  Also I think we should see quick dividends with this staff early on as well since rhule and co were completely inept 

[rayzor]

18 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

100%

 

I think in regards to young we should know rather quickly if this is going to work.  8 weeks or so would be my guess.  Also I think we should see quick dividends with this staff early on as well since rhule and co were completely inept 

i think we'll see as quickly with Young as we did with Cam...as in weeks 1 and 2 i think we'll know we've got something special going on here. 

tbh, i'm not as excited about Young as i was with Cam (although there is a lot of excitement and that excitement is building for me), but i am far more excited about Young + Reich & co. than i was with Cam + Rivera & co.