Panthers Rookie Minicamp 5.12

[ladypanther]

 

[ladypanther]

Some about rookie mini camp in general.  Starts talking about the Panthers and bryce at 4:25.

 

 

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Saying he's short, and inquiring about his ability to stay healthy, is not a bad thing. Why everyone here acts like it's an asinine take are more absurd than those questioning the issue to begin with.

Rational thought has left the building.

I mean, if that's all you can talk about, have at it, but the term "ad nauseam" came into existence for a reason. Everyone knows he's short and small of stature for a QB. Questioning if he can stay healthy is normal, I guess, and certainly expected. But to keep questioning Young's health repeatedly like a broken record, especially before you've even received concrete, direct evidence that should give you reasons to keep questioning his health,  is kind of irrational.

Like I said before, in so many words, he has always been one of the smallest trees in the forest, but that hasn't precluded him from bearing great fruit. His size has not prevented him from succeeding at any level of football, and if I had to bet, I'd bet that that's not going to magically change just because of his natural progression to the NFL. I mean, he's been the smallest all along (relatively), but he's also gotten bigger, stronger and smarter all along---enough so that he's not some player with a significant injury history which should give fans some comfort, though admittedly the only real comfort for most people will come with Bryce proving himself (all over again in a sense) at this level.

There are so many things to discuss with a QB. At some point it would seem that one would actually want to discuss Bryce's body of work as opposed to just his body.

[Bear Hands]

Gotta say, I really liked what I heard in DJJ's interview today. 

Both him and Mingo seem like really hard-nosed/tough but smart & students of the game type guys.  Maybe he's got some goods to provide.    

https://www.panthers.com/video/dj-johnson-i-m-here-to-keep-improving

 

[ForJimmy]

18 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Gotta say, I really liked what I heard in DJJ's interview today. 

Both him and Mingo seem like really hard-nosed/tough but smart & students of the game type guys.  Maybe he's got some goods to provide.    

https://www.panthers.com/video/dj-johnson-i-m-here-to-keep-improving

 

He definitely seems focused and aware of areas he needs to work on. I even like his comment on first purchase. Smart guy who doesn’t want any distractions.

[CPcavedweller]

23 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Cam was 6'5 with a greek bod. People still hated him.

 

It doesn't matter what you look like, haters will always be around looking for any excuse to down you. Yeah Bryce is small but he plays much bigger than his size. If you actually took time to watch the film you wouldn't be talking about his size so much.

Tell me how Bryce plays bigger than his size? He plays like he's 5'10. He scrambles, slides, and finds guys in backyard football style breaks. He plays to his size.

Again, people here with blind optimism when there is video out there of Stroud and Levis shredding with laser throws and the same movements as Bryce. 

[frankw]

7 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Tell me how Bryce plays bigger than his size? He plays like he's 5'10. He scrambles, slides, and finds guys in backyard football style breaks. He plays to his size.

Again, people here with blind optimism when there is video out there of Stroud and Levis shredding with laser throws and the same movements as Bryce. 

Where is the footage of these lasers being thrown at rookie mini camp? I just watched two clips from Stroud throwing and both were basic throws. I've also seen the one from Levis. I haven't seen anything yet from any of the rookie quarterbacks that is going to go viral or anything. These teams aren't even doing much in their camps yet. Your incessant hating on your own QB is sad and embarrassing. If you are this petulant about the guy you wanted not being picked you should detach.

Edited May 14, 2023 by frankw

[Hoenheim]

On 5/13/2023 at 10:51 AM, top dawg said:

OK, unlike Rayzor, I am a bit more understanding (though I'm not a mod) FWIW. This is still a time of transition. Some Huddlers and skeptical fans everywhere, like maybe you and @Hoenheim, will just have to see Young do his thing at a professional level on a consistent basis. I get it. I get it. Yesterday was obviously a "jarring" time for some because apparently it's the first time they've actually paid attention to Young and/or have actually seen him in person. Again, I get it. There's going to be a certain amount of surprise considering what we've all become accustomed to for however many years that we've watched the game. As such, there should be a certain amount of latitude for the reactionists who exclaim, "Oh, my god, he's tiny."

What some of the reactionists must understand is that some of us have been watching Bryce be the smallest guy among giants for years, so his mere existence on the football field is not "jarring," much less surprising. Moreover, I disagree about football. There's always been a discussion about Bryce's pure football abilities---quarterbacking abilities---to be had, as there is now, but some people just refuse to do it. 

To Rayzor's credit, he hasn't banned anyone or gotten saucy or over-the-top (like he did with me when I was going back and forth with Scot). It's probably less about low-key "spamming" than it is actual surprise. Don't get me wrong, I know that message boards are rife with trolls and assholes, but apparently this Bryce thing is a thing that's not going to go away quickly, or anytime soon.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/05/12/panthers-bryce-young-first-practice-fans-stunned-about-his-size

But, again, it shouldn't be that hard to talk about Young and football, because the guy has been good at it at all levels.

 

This is the point I was trying to convey, I'm not a spammer or troll I was just saying the first thing that came to mind when I saw that picture 

If I was a troll or spammer I'd be bringing it up a lot more often and intentionally disrespecting people and Bryce and I'm not sure I ever did that (I did say one funny line to razor yes I'm sorry) . I'd be saying stuff like he's trash snd there's no way he can cut it in the NFL.  I'd never say stuff like that. 

It's really my fault for not reading the situation/climate here, I kidna struggle irl as well complaining about various stuff, my social awareness isn't that great. I'm literally alone like 99% of the time and don't really have to talk to anyone much in my every day life either lol.

[poundaway]

1 hour ago, Hoenheim said:

If I was a troll or spammer I'd be bringing it up a lot more often

 

No, you're just the latest.  We've had months of posts about it. 

You are free to post.  Others are free to react.

The only study on injury says not only is size not a real concern, smaller is actually an advantage.   The anecdotes (Cam, Wilson, PJ Coral) confirm it.  When asked for examples of smaller players getting hurt because they are smaller, and the injury can be attributed to his size, no examples were given.  The same goes to data shown for batted balls.  In the end, its just bias, or more accurately, biased bullshlt.
 

The problem isn't that Young is small, its that some people are  small minded.

Edited May 14, 2023 by poundaway

[poundaway]

5 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Again, people here with blind optimism when there is video out there of Stroud and Levis shredding with laser throws and the same movements as Bryce. 

Its not blind.  Its just optimism.  We're cheering on our new QB.

As for the S2roud and Levis worship of yours.  Talk about blind optimism... for other teams QBs.

 

 

Edited May 14, 2023 by poundaway

[ForJimmy]

17 minutes ago, poundaway said:

Its not blind.  Its just optimism.  We're cheering on our new QB.

As for the S2roud and Levis worship of yours.  Talk about blind optimism... for other teams QBs.

 

 

I mean the team that drafted Stroud wanted Young over him to a degree in which they called Chicago and were going to trade up from 2 to draft him. I was a Stroud guy, but that really got me pumped about Young when I read that.

[CamWhoaaCam]

6 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Tell me how Bryce plays bigger than his size? He plays like he's 5'10. He scrambles, slides, and finds guys in backyard football style breaks. He plays to his size.

Again, people here with blind optimism when there is video out there of Stroud and Levis shredding with laser throws and the same movements as Bryce. 

I can't help you. He's been the #1 prospect his entire career. High School, College, now the NFL. You aren't seeing what everyone else sees. That seems more like a you problem. Watch the film/player not the appearance...

Edited May 14, 2023 by CamWhoaaCam

[TLGPanthersFan]

3 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I can't help you. He's been the #1 prospect his entire career. High School, College, now the NFL. You aren't seeing what everyone else sees. That seems more like a you problem. Watch the film/player not the appearance...

People like him just like being miserable. 

[NorthTryon]

On 5/13/2023 at 2:25 PM, PantherPhann89 said:

If sawed off means: pushing players to be better, telling them to get in their playbook, to get up of the ground after a hit practice how you play and to play with a boulder on your shoulder, then yeah...

No, I mean sucker punching players in meetings who simply asked to review certain plays in film study and on the practice field while taking a knee. Literally the only WR who they were willing to pair with him for success was Moose. I mean not wanting to work with the new franchise QB in 2011(According to Greg Olsen via A Football Life), ultimately resulting in the Panthers moving on to make it Cam and Luke's team. That's what I meant by sawed off.