Panthers Rookie Minicamp 5.12

[CPcavedweller]

3 hours ago, top dawg said:

OK, unlike Rayzor, I am a bit more understanding (though I'm not a mod) FWIW. This is still a time of transition. Some Huddlers and skeptical fans everywhere, like maybe you and @Hoenheim, will just have to see Young do his thing at a professional level on a consistent basis. I get it. I get it. Yesterday was obviously a "jarring" time for some because apparently it's the first time they've actually paid attention to Young and/or have actually seen him in person. Again, I get it. There's going to be a certain amount of surprise considering what we've all become accustomed to for however many years that we've watched the game. As such, there should be a certain amount of latitude for the reactionists who exclaim, "Oh, my god, he's tiny."

What some of the reactionists must understand is that some of us have been watching Bryce be the smallest guy among giants for years, so his mere existence on the football field is not "jarring," much less surprising. Moreover, I disagree about football. There's always been a discussion about Bryce's pure football abilities---quarterbacking abilities---to be had, as there is now, but some people just refuse to do it. 

To Rayzor's credit, he hasn't banned anyone or gotten saucy or over-the-top (like he did with me when I was going back and forth with Scot). It's probably less about low-key "spamming" than it is actual surprise. Don't get me wrong, I know that message boards are rife with trolls and assholes, but apparently this Bryce thing is a thing that's not going to go away quickly, or anytime soon.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/05/12/panthers-bryce-young-first-practice-fans-stunned-about-his-size

But, again, it shouldn't be that hard to talk about Young and football, because the guy has been good at it at all levels.

 

Saying he's short, and inquiring about his ability to stay healthy, is not a bad thing. Why everyone here acts like it's an asinine take are more absurd than those questioning the issue to begin with.

Rational thought has left the building.

[CPcavedweller]

17 hours ago, rayzor said:

He looks tiny because that's all you choose to see. That's what you are fuggin fixated on and you don't have to bring it up every damn time. On the field he looks just like everyone else....a football player.

But yeah... That's all you see. A little man. So please tell us a million more times.

 

He's tiny. Refute that, objective, fact. It's not a feeling and it's not all I refuse to see. I see the skills of your average rookie in only a helmet but he's 5'10, so he looks tiny doing it. 

Refute that. Please. The blind optimism here is nauseating.

[Eric4280]

45 minutes ago, rayzor said:

No problem with anything you said.

It shouldn't be hard to talk about Young and football, but his size is all they can see and that's a choice. They seem incapable of discussing anything but his size and they are keeping the whole damn discussion on it. They hijack EVERY discussion about him into one about his size. Yes, I haven't banned anyone because of it and I won't unless someone dies get out of hand with it just like any other topic.

But it is damn tiring to keep seeing people say the same thing every discussion. It makes me wish we were using sigs again so someone could make a banner that they all put in saying "he's just so tiny" so they could feel good knowing it was different and they could talk about other things too.

It's annoying as hell, but annoying me is not a bannable offense.

Been screaming this since like March. We need to get together on the dude. Bengals fans don’t wish Burrow was younger or was more mobile or had a stronger arm. Embrace our franchise guy for his positives.

[PantherPhann89]

21 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

It is really amazing and cool how he has become so accommodating and willing to work with young WRs after retirement. He used to be so sawed off back in the day. 

If sawed off means: pushing players to be better, telling them to get in their playbook, to get up of the ground after a hit practice how you play and to play with a boulder on your shoulder, then yeah...

[rayzor]

12 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Saying he's short, and inquiring about his ability to stay healthy, is not a bad thing. Why everyone here acts like it's an asinine take are more absurd than those questioning the issue to begin with.

Rational thought has left the building.

But do you have to bring it up every time? That's the issue. That's all you have to contibute to any and every discussion. I mean that's ALL you talk about. Just how much more do you need to say about it?

We all get it. He's short. He's tiny. How many times do you have to mention it? It's a broken record.

 

[RJK]

His height is an easy thing to mock. I suggest y’all grow some thicker skin because every fanbase is going to bring it up for the foreseeable future. 

[TheCasillas]

26 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

He's tiny. Refute that, objective, fact. It's not a feeling and it's not all I refuse to see. I see the skills of your average rookie in only a helmet but he's 5'10, so he looks tiny doing it. 

Refute that. Please. The blind optimism here is nauseating.

Along with the many lies and misunderstandings you have shown on this forum, you have yet to disappoint. You truly do not understand objective vs subjective. 
 

it’s entertaining for us, but embarrassing for you. The funniest part is that alll of the effort you put in… you don’t exist after the 8 seconds it takes to realize how pathetic you are at internet debates.

 

that is all.

 

Edited May 13, 2023 by TheCasillas

[ladypanther]

 

[ladypanther]

Some about rookie mini camp in general.  Starts talking about the Panthers and bryce at 4:25.

 

 

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Saying he's short, and inquiring about his ability to stay healthy, is not a bad thing. Why everyone here acts like it's an asinine take are more absurd than those questioning the issue to begin with.

Rational thought has left the building.

I mean, if that's all you can talk about, have at it, but the term "ad nauseam" came into existence for a reason. Everyone knows he's short and small of stature for a QB. Questioning if he can stay healthy is normal, I guess, and certainly expected. But to keep questioning Young's health repeatedly like a broken record, especially before you've even received concrete, direct evidence that should give you reasons to keep questioning his health,  is kind of irrational.

Like I said before, in so many words, he has always been one of the smallest trees in the forest, but that hasn't precluded him from bearing great fruit. His size has not prevented him from succeeding at any level of football, and if I had to bet, I'd bet that that's not going to magically change just because of his natural progression to the NFL. I mean, he's been the smallest all along (relatively), but he's also gotten bigger, stronger and smarter all along---enough so that he's not some player with a significant injury history which should give fans some comfort, though admittedly the only real comfort for most people will come with Bryce proving himself (all over again in a sense) at this level.

There are so many things to discuss with a QB. At some point it would seem that one would actually want to discuss Bryce's body of work as opposed to just his body.

[Bear Hands]

Gotta say, I really liked what I heard in DJJ's interview today. 

Both him and Mingo seem like really hard-nosed/tough but smart & students of the game type guys.  Maybe he's got some goods to provide.    

https://www.panthers.com/video/dj-johnson-i-m-here-to-keep-improving

 

[ForJimmy]

18 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Gotta say, I really liked what I heard in DJJ's interview today. 

Both him and Mingo seem like really hard-nosed/tough but smart & students of the game type guys.  Maybe he's got some goods to provide.    

https://www.panthers.com/video/dj-johnson-i-m-here-to-keep-improving

 

He definitely seems focused and aware of areas he needs to work on. I even like his comment on first purchase. Smart guy who doesn’t want any distractions.

[CPcavedweller]

23 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Cam was 6'5 with a greek bod. People still hated him.

 

It doesn't matter what you look like, haters will always be around looking for any excuse to down you. Yeah Bryce is small but he plays much bigger than his size. If you actually took time to watch the film you wouldn't be talking about his size so much.

Tell me how Bryce plays bigger than his size? He plays like he's 5'10. He scrambles, slides, and finds guys in backyard football style breaks. He plays to his size.

Again, people here with blind optimism when there is video out there of Stroud and Levis shredding with laser throws and the same movements as Bryce. 

[frankw]

7 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Tell me how Bryce plays bigger than his size? He plays like he's 5'10. He scrambles, slides, and finds guys in backyard football style breaks. He plays to his size.

Again, people here with blind optimism when there is video out there of Stroud and Levis shredding with laser throws and the same movements as Bryce. 

Where is the footage of these lasers being thrown at rookie mini camp? I just watched two clips from Stroud throwing and both were basic throws. I've also seen the one from Levis. I haven't seen anything yet from any of the rookie quarterbacks that is going to go viral or anything. These teams aren't even doing much in their camps yet. Your incessant hating on your own QB is sad and embarrassing. If you are this petulant about the guy you wanted not being picked you should detach.

Edited May 14, 2023 by frankw