The Anti-tankers…. Never forget!!!!

[Gerry Green]

Although I have no experience with either. I blame both Fantasy Football, and Madden. 

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, WhoKnows said:

You do understand that even tanking doesn’t mean you tell players to half ass, right? Tanking is done with personnel, like not signing a medium level FA QB (like Teddy) and letting Clausen or Weinke or Painter get you a top draft pick or it’s done by resting players in week 17/18 to start rookies and as posted above, not get your two starting guards seriously hurt. As has been said many times, tanking is NOT asking players to play poorly.

So it's making poor personnel choices that won't help you win games.

Yeah....that's so much better.

[Gerry Green]

4 minutes ago, rayzor said:

So it's making poor personnel choices that won't help you win games.

Yeah....that's so much better.

 

It's not tanking if you call it player development. It just might be crazy enough to work. Especially if you wait until the last few weeks to implement this master plan.

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, Gerry Green said:

Tanking is a fan thingy.

 

NFL Football is a results driven occupation. You don't get results. You don't get to keep your job.

Bingo.

You do your job poorly, you lose it.

You deliberately do your job poorly, you don't find another job

[rayzor]

2 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

It's not tanking if you call it player development. It just might be crazy enough to work. Especially if you wait until the last few weeks to implement this master plan.

Yeah no one will see through that

[KatsAzz]

19 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

tanking is, and always will be stupid 

I could not agree more, football games are meant to be played to win. 

[Gerry Green]

Just now, KatsAzz said:

I could not agree more, football games are meant to be played to win. 

 

If there isn't meant to be a winner, why keep score?

[Mother Grabber]

2 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

You do understand that even tanking doesn’t mean you tell players to half ass, right? Tanking is done with personnel, like not signing a medium level FA QB (like Teddy) and letting Clausen or Weinke or Painter get you a top draft pick or it’s done by resting players in week 17/18 to start rookies and as posted above, not get your two starting guards seriously hurt. As has been said many times, tanking is NOT asking players to play poorly.

you think that when they are in tank mode they are spending as much watching film, game planning, designing specialized practices, and otherwise preparing as they would on an expected deep playoff run?

the product on the field is the result of the effort put into preparation, and they are 100% half assing that at all levels when in tank mode. this leads to poor preparation, lack of attention to detail, being out of position, reduced effort, and increasing risk of injury.

[Gerry Green]

4 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Bingo.

You do your job poorly, you lose it.

You deliberately do your job poorly, you don't find another job

 

This is a major point in this issue. Fans don't have to worry about where that coaches next job will be.

[Gerry Green]

2 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

you think that when they are in tank mode they are spending as much watching film, game planning, designing specialized practices, and otherwise preparing as they would on an expected deep playoff run?

the product on the field is the result of the effort put into preparation, and they are 100% half assing that at all levels when in tank mode. this leads to poor preparation, lack of attention to detail, being out of position, reduced effort, and increasing risk of injury.

 

And longer lines at the Unemployment Office. lol

[rayzor]

6 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

This is a major point in this issue. Fans don't have to worry about where that coaches next job will be.

Because we're the most important part of the equation. Nothing and no one else matters. They're all just fantasy players and coaches.

[Gerry Green]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

Because we're the most important part of the equation. Nothing and no one else matters. They're all just fantasy players and coaches.

 

It's funny because it's true. It's also kinda sad because it's true.

 

It's twue, it's twue. lol

[Pantherxtreme]

21 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

We beat the Bucs- we win the division, get a 20th pick instead of 9, out of contention for the #1 pick, likely retain Wilks and a cut rate coaching staff and get embarrassed by Dallas in the playoffs. This off-season we’d be excited about signing a Jimmy G / Derek Carr kind of QB #vomit

 

We take the L… we get the #9 pick, new coaching staff that turns out to be on paper quite possibly the best staff Tepper’s wallet can get, we trade draft capital and get the #1 pick, get aggressive in FA and suddenly things look optimistic after 5 years of dire

 

Had we taken more L’s… we’d likely be sitting at 4 or 5, could have still gotten the #1 pick but it would likely not cost us DJ Moore

 

Sometimes you have to think long term health of the franchise and had we racked up more pointless wins last year we wouldn’t be enjoying the position this team is finally in

I hear ya brother, but Hindsight is 2020.

Once you get into the dance anything can happen, but you won't know unless you're in it to begin with. 

There's no guarantee we get Bryce Young. We got lucky that the team in the top spot Chicago had just selected a young Qb the previous season; Houston doesn't budge from that spot. 

As far as coaching staff and free agency that falls on the owner and GM to find the best available guys to make the franchise a winner. If Wilkes had gotten us into the palyoffs after the disastrous start of the season he deserved the job.

You can't argue results nevertheless they couldn't get past an ailing Bucs team with Tom Brady having one foot out the door. So we went out and hopefully got an even better staff. 

Flashy picks like Cam, or journeymen qbs like Delhomme, at the end of the day its about wins and who can produce. 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I'm good with how everything has gone so far. This is the first season since the beginning of 2019 that I've looked forward to Panther Football. Best of luck to Tepper, this team and staff, and most of all to Bryce Young. Hopefully he's just as electrifying as the last QB we drafted #1 overall. This fanbase needs that type of energy again.

Edited May 7, 2023 by Mr Mojo Risin