Panthers Fans Never Learn

[CPantherKing]

2 minutes ago, rodeo said:

We were 1 game off the playoffs last year, so to not predict the playoffs this year means you think we'll be the same or worse than we were with Baker Mayfield. That's not cautious, that's clinical depression.

He is trying to say...

Frank Reich has yet to prove he can coach a team to win at the level Rivera, Fox, and Capers did as NFL head coaches. Reich falls just short of Capers as an 8 to 10 win coach. QB development in Philadelphia that led to their 2017 SB championship was not done by Reich or Pederson.

Bryce Young needs to prove he is better than he was in college when he had to pass 30 or more times in a game. The Tennessee, LSU, Texas, Auburn, and Texas A&M defenses beat him up and frustrated him to the point he looked awful. He was 8-4 in games that were worth evaluating. He doesn't have players like Metchie, Williams, Robinson, or Gibbs with the Panthers. He doesn't have the Alabama defense or Nick Saban to mask his mistakes and failed 3 and outs. Bryce Young needs to prove he can slide, take even more hits than he did in college, and keep his helmet from bouncing off the turf. Saban clearly does not prioritize training QBs on how to stay healthy.

The Panthers have zero foundation with coaching staff and players. Culture has yet to be set. Everyone is going to be learning a new system and the defense is having to make a dramatic shift with noticeable personnel holes that can easily be attacked by offensive coordinators. Thomas Brown will not be making the play calls and is in his first year as an OC. Evero was a first year DC last season and was outcoached leading to Hackett getting fired and Wilson taking the blame for all the GWD situations the Broncos defense put him in. Wilson put the Broncos in position to win several games and the Broncos defense couldn't stop the other teams GWD. Evero had 3 OT losses because the defense couldn't protect a lead and followed those 4th quarter lost leads up with giving up GWDs in OT. Sam Darnold made Evero's defense look bad. Evero gave up 12 scoring drives on 20 total drives to Derek Carr. Evero gave up 51 points in a single game to Baker Mayfield. Carr and Mayfield have no problem winning with Evero as DC. Evero needs to prove he can stop Carr and Mayfield. If he struggles with Carr and Mayfield, he will likely struggle with Ridder too. How many of you knew Evero struggled like this with Capers by his side as an advisor?

The Panthers have a lot to prove and are a step behind their division competitors no matter how elite you believe Reich, Brown, and Evero are with a rookie QB under extreme pressure that is currently not near the level of Russell Wilson (who is no longer among the top QBs in the NFL).

This season for the Panthers in the NFC South is not going to be as easy as many of you think. The most probable outcome is Fitterer is questioned with no 1st round pick for next year and the Panthers being swept by Carr, Ridder, and Mayfield giving up more than 30 points on average to them in all 6 games. Young MUST be an immediate success and carry a team with the ability to put up 30+ points in games with his arm if the Panthers stand a chance in 2023. While the Panthers have some good players with weak leadership, Young does not have any playmakers or proven coaches on offense or defense to lean on.

I see 2 wins on the schedule with 5 close games that could go either way if Bryce Young struggles as a rookie and cannot carry the team for a full season. Hope I am wrong and he is NFLs Steph Curry out of the gate controlling games and pulling out GWDs at a Tom Brady level to push the Panthers over 10 wins and into the playoffs with Evero being the best defensive coach in the game keeping most QBs under 20 points a game.

[Brent Gregory]

The Panthers finished a stupid play  out of the playoffs last year with cast of bad coaches and bad qbs. They have significantly upgraded in all areas. I expect 11 wins next season and hosting a playoff game. 

[Mother Grabber]

4 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

He is trying to say...

Frank Reich has yet to prove he can coach a team to win at the level Rivera, Fox, and Capers did as NFL head coaches. Reich falls just short of Capers as an 8 to 10 win coach. QB development in Philadelphia that led to their 2017 SB championship was not done by Reich or Pederson.

Bryce Young needs to prove he is better than he was in college when he had to pass 30 or more times in a game. The Tennessee, LSU, Texas, Auburn, and Texas A&M defenses beat him up and frustrated him to the point he looked awful. He was 8-4 in games that were worth evaluating. He doesn't have players like Metchie, Williams, Robinson, or Gibbs with the Panthers. He doesn't have the Alabama defense or Nick Saban to mask his mistakes and failed 3 and outs. Bryce Young needs to prove he can slide, take even more hits than he did in college, and keep his helmet from bouncing off the turf. Saban clearly does not prioritize training QBs on how to stay healthy.

The Panthers have zero foundation with coaching staff and players. Culture has yet to be set. Everyone is going to be learning a new system and the defense is having to make a dramatic shift with noticeable personnel holes that can easily be attacked by offensive coordinators. Thomas Brown will not be making the play calls and is in his first year as an OC. Evero was a first year DC last season and was outcoached leading to Hackett getting fired and Wilson taking the blame for all the GWD situations the Broncos defense put him in. Wilson put the Broncos in position to win several games and the Broncos defense couldn't stop the other teams GWD. Evero had 3 OT losses because the defense couldn't protect a lead and followed those 4th quarter lost leads up with giving up GWDs in OT. Sam Darnold made Evero's defense look bad. Evero gave up 12 scoring drives on 20 total drives to Derek Carr. Evero gave up 51 points in a single game to Baker Mayfield. Carr and Mayfield have no problem winning with Evero as DC. Evero needs to prove he can stop Carr and Mayfield. If he struggles with Carr and Mayfield, he will likely struggle with Ridder too. How many of you knew Evero struggled like this with Capers by his side as an advisor?

The Panthers have a lot to prove and are a step behind their division competitors no matter how elite you believe Reich, Brown, and Evero are with a rookie QB under extreme pressure that is currently not near the level of Russell Wilson (who is no longer among the top QBs in the NFL).

This season for the Panthers in the NFC South is not going to be as easy as many of you think. The most probable outcome is Fitterer is questioned with no 1st round pick for next year and the Panthers being swept by Carr, Ridder, and Mayfield giving up more than 30 points on average to them in all 6 games. Young MUST be an immediate success and carry a team with the ability to put up 30+ points in games with his arm if the Panthers stand a chance in 2023. While the Panthers have some good players with weak leadership, Young does not have any playmakers or proven coaches on offense or defense to lean on.

I see 2 wins on the schedule with 5 close games that could go either way if Bryce Young struggles as a rookie and cannot carry the team for a full season. Hope I am wrong and he is NFLs Steph Curry out of the gate controlling games and pulling out GWDs at a Tom Brady level to push the Panthers over 10 wins and into the playoffs with Evero being the best defensive coach in the game keeping most QBs under 20 points a game.

[WOW!!]

[Stuart Smith]

37 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Bump this thread when we’re sitting at 3-7 next year

Is your glass always half empty or just on this page?

[rayzor]

2 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

29 minutes ago, Brent Gregory said:

The Panthers finished a stupid play  out of the playoffs last year with cast of bad coaches and bad qbs. They have significantly upgraded in all areas. I expect 11 wins next season and hosting a playoff game. 

Yeah, and that “playoff run” cost is DJ Moore and a couple high picks. Was it really worth it?

Basically, the Panthers can’t do poo right most of the time 

[Day1PanthersFan]

I have watched this team wallow in mediocrity and losing seasons has far has I can remember , it has made me a natural cynic

But I have allowed myself to hope, Tepper wants a superbowl and he has opened up his checkbook to get one , and has stepped back and let Reich and Fitt build the pieces to get one 

Could it all be a collassall failure, yes, but I always have to believe better days are ahead , and haven't felt this hopeful since we fired fox and drafted Cam 

[csx]

People are smiling and not miserable, I must say something to stop that.

Some never learn that non of this matters.

Edited May 3, 2023 by csx

[panthers55]

It is May, the time of year when we get to discuss the draft and free agency and hope our new brain trust can guide us to a winning season which eluded us last year. When new coaches come in they usually have a depleted team that it takes years to build up. Instead we have lots of weapons and both a good defense as well as great special teams. Young will learn to play within himself and let his teammates do the work. I have no clue how successful we will be but with our previous coaches like Fox and Capers they went deep in the playoffs in year 2. Rivera took until his third year but with all of them there needs to be early success or it likely won't happen.  So Reich doesn't have a long time  to win given Rhule took 3 years of the five Tepper said it would take to build a consistent winner.  This is year 4 and we have been patient.

[Mother Grabber]

NEVER DOUBT THE POWER OF THE POONATS!!!

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Pup McBarky said:

This thread is going places.

Either hell or the toilet...

[rodeo]

1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

He is trying to say...

Frank Reich has yet to prove he can coach a team to win at the level Rivera, Fox, and Capers did as NFL head coaches. Reich falls just short of Capers as an 8 to 10 win coach.

Frank Reich has a better win % as a head coach than any of these other guys you named.

[Paa Langfart]

2 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

He is trying to say...

Frank Reich has yet to prove he can coach a team to win at the level Rivera, Fox, and Capers did as NFL head coaches. Reich falls just short of Capers as an 8 to 10 win coach. QB development in Philadelphia that led to their 2017 SB championship was not done by Reich or Pederson.

Bryce Young needs to prove he is better than he was in college when he had to pass 30 or more times in a game. The Tennessee, LSU, Texas, Auburn, and Texas A&M defenses beat him up and frustrated him to the point he looked awful. He was 8-4 in games that were worth evaluating. He doesn't have players like Metchie, Williams, Robinson, or Gibbs with the Panthers. He doesn't have the Alabama defense or Nick Saban to mask his mistakes and failed 3 and outs. Bryce Young needs to prove he can slide, take even more hits than he did in college, and keep his helmet from bouncing off the turf. Saban clearly does not prioritize training QBs on how to stay healthy.

The Panthers have zero foundation with coaching staff and players. Culture has yet to be set. Everyone is going to be learning a new system and the defense is having to make a dramatic shift with noticeable personnel holes that can easily be attacked by offensive coordinators. Thomas Brown will not be making the play calls and is in his first year as an OC. Evero was a first year DC last season and was outcoached leading to Hackett getting fired and Wilson taking the blame for all the GWD situations the Broncos defense put him in. Wilson put the Broncos in position to win several games and the Broncos defense couldn't stop the other teams GWD. Evero had 3 OT losses because the defense couldn't protect a lead and followed those 4th quarter lost leads up with giving up GWDs in OT. Sam Darnold made Evero's defense look bad. Evero gave up 12 scoring drives on 20 total drives to Derek Carr. Evero gave up 51 points in a single game to Baker Mayfield. Carr and Mayfield have no problem winning with Evero as DC. Evero needs to prove he can stop Carr and Mayfield. If he struggles with Carr and Mayfield, he will likely struggle with Ridder too. How many of you knew Evero struggled like this with Capers by his side as an advisor?

The Panthers have a lot to prove and are a step behind their division competitors no matter how elite you believe Reich, Brown, and Evero are with a rookie QB under extreme pressure that is currently not near the level of Russell Wilson (who is no longer among the top QBs in the NFL).

This season for the Panthers in the NFC South is not going to be as easy as many of you think. The most probable outcome is Fitterer is questioned with no 1st round pick for next year and the Panthers being swept by Carr, Ridder, and Mayfield giving up more than 30 points on average to them in all 6 games. Young MUST be an immediate success and carry a team with the ability to put up 30+ points in games with his arm if the Panthers stand a chance in 2023. While the Panthers have some good players with weak leadership, Young does not have any playmakers or proven coaches on offense or defense to lean on.

I see 2 wins on the schedule with 5 close games that could go either way if Bryce Young struggles as a rookie and cannot carry the team for a full season. Hope I am wrong and he is NFLs Steph Curry out of the gate controlling games and pulling out GWDs at a Tom Brady level to push the Panthers over 10 wins and into the playoffs with Evero being the best defensive coach in the game keeping most QBs under 20 points a game.

Too much reality there for most of the huddle to handle the week after the draft.