If Bryce is as good as most think..

[pantherdad]

20 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

And can we be very clear on this..

Some of the hits he took in college will be flags in the NFL…

But will he be old enough to get those calls?

[Ricky Spanish]

30 minutes ago, pantherdad said:

But will he be old enough to get those calls?

He'll be small enough that's for sure.

The smaller guys tend to get the calls more often because the hits look more violent against them.

It's why Cam and Big Ben rarely got roughing called for them.

[Bearzzz]

I think Young will be fine making the transition to the NFL.  How do you guys feel your defense will do switching to a 3-4?  Not an easy change.

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, Bearzzz said:

I think Young will be fine making the transition to the NFL.  How do you guys feel your defense will do switching to a 3-4?  Not an easy change.

Considering you are in your base 25% of the time and in nickel well over 50% it won't be much different than before since we use the nickel a lot. I think it will make the defense even nastier especially if we bring lots of pressure.

[WOW!!]

16 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

He'll be small enough that's for sure.

The smaller guys tend to get the calls more often because the hits look more violent against them.

It's why Cam and Big Ben rarely got roughing called for them.

It’s almost like hack a Shaq in the NBA teams got to beat on Shaq way more then they do James Harden who get breath on and draws a foul..

[Cdparr7]

If Bryce somehow turns out to be a bust, it won’t be from performance it will be from injury and longevity.
 

Everything is there just have to make it last, and keep good OL around him. The same people that will complain when he gets hurt will be the same ones that complain when we use day 1 and 2 draft picks for OL.

[rayzor]

12 hours ago, ickmule said:

We aren’t sure he can see far enough over the line yet.  Let’s see him play a few meaningful games before we start pounding our chests. 

Average height for an Olineman is 6'5 .

How tall do you have to be to see over the OL? How many QBs are capable of doing that?

QBs don't look over the OL. They all look through them. They all choose their lanes to look through.

[tukafan21]

9 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

If Bryce somehow turns out to be a bust, it won’t be from performance it will be from injury and longevity.
 

Everything is there just have to make it last, and keep good OL around him. The same people that will complain when he gets hurt will be the same ones that complain when we use day 1 and 2 draft picks for OL.

Yep, from here on out, as long as Young is our QB, OL is the most important part of this team every offseason and making sure it is in a sound place.

Right now we have a great OL in place with parts that we likely can keep here for a few years.  I'd say taking an OL in the 3rd or 4th every year as possible backups is a good idea, and when we need to replace a starter, if we can't do it through FA before the draft, need to use a 2nd or 1st that year on OL.

If Bryce stays healthy, in the future we can go a year without WRs or a RB, or even some things on defense if he's that good.  But OL is something we'll never be able to compromise with him as our QB, can't risk it.  It will be the position that we'll over pay for FA's if necessary as well, and I won't have any issue with it myself.

Edited May 2, 2023 by tukafan21

[PanthersATL]

6 hours ago, rayzor said:

You watch his career highlights and watch what happens after he gets the ball out.....he take big hits, just like everyone else. That very first play where the snap is bad, he gets that ball out and takes a headshot.

And you know what?

He gets up.

Every. Damn. Time.

And you know what he does every time gets back up?

He makes magic happen. Again..

Can’t wait to see it in action. Exciting times to be a Panthers fan.

have lots of Alabama friends looking to join the Panthers bandwagon a smidge and cheer on Bryce with us…

im glad that the NFL rules recently have gotten better about protecting the QB regarding bad hits and stuff.   I hope that Bryce gets the credit and takes advantage of those rules in all the ways that we never got to see when Cam was targeted unfairly and the refs looked the other way

[Bearzzz]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Considering you are in your base 25% of the time and in nickel well over 50% it won't be much different than before since we use the nickel a lot. I think it will make the defense even nastier especially if we bring lots of pressure.

Good point. Wasn't sure if Carolina was loading up on linebackers instead of D-linemen. Typically happens when teams make that switch.

[csx]

6 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Considering you are in your base 25% of the time and in nickel well over 50% it won't be much different than before since we use the nickel a lot. I think it will make the defense even nastier especially if we bring lots of pressure.

I don't think the challenge of switching to a 3-4 comes from the secondary and inside linebackers. It will likely come from the front and how players adjust to the new techniques.  Henry Anderson and Deshawn Williams have experience in the front of a 3-4 but not really anyone else. The Gap and a half scheme Fits mentioned will surely be different for most any of our existing lineman and linebackers have much experience with. Anyone new would have been selected with this in mind however.

I think I'm as excited or more to see the new defense 

Edited May 2, 2023 by csx

[panthers55]

15 hours ago, csx said:

I don't think the challenge of switching to a 3-4 comes from the secondary and inside linebackers. It will likely come from the front and how players adjust to the new techniques.  Henry Anderson and Deshawn Williams have experience in the front of a 3-4 but not really anyone else. The Gap and a half scheme Fits mentioned will surely be different for most any of our existing lineman and linebackers have much experience with. Anyone new would have been selected with this in mind however.

I think I'm as excited or more to see the new defense 

For defensive linemen the shift is not that great. They may have different assignments or have more 2 gap responsibilities instead of a one gap penetrating style that they are more familiar with.  But things are pretty similar. It it guys like Burns who are now considered outside linebackers that really have a lot to manage. Especially if we use some form of Fangio's  3-4.

[LordOfDaWingz]

I haven’t felt this sure about a Qb since Joe Burrow. I feel like we’ve hit a homerun. We’ve had some really good teams but I would always look around the league and be envious of other franchises star Qb’s (Cam is a different story bc the front office and coaching staff legit thought he was Superman and would not help him at all). 
 

If we got this pick right, we could have a run of NFC South Division titles that rivals the great stretches in history. From the 49ers to the Patriots to the Chiefs. We could have several consecutive NFC Championship games appearances, hosting most of them. I am EXCITED!!! Let’s start the season now!

[Eric4280]

6 minutes ago, LordOfDaWingz said:

I haven’t felt this sure about a Qb since Joe Burrow. I feel like we’ve hit a homerun. We’ve had some really good teams but I would always look around the league and be envious of other franchises star Qb’s (Cam is a different story bc the front office and coaching staff legit thought he was Superman and would not help him at all). 
 

If we got this pick right, we could have a run of NFC South Division titles that rivals the great stretches in history. From the 49ers to the Patriots to the Chiefs. We could have several consecutive NFC Championship games appearances, hosting most of them. I am EXCITED!!! Let’s start the season now!

This is exactly how we should all feel. The franchise has a super identity now and what I’ve always felt is one of the special players that takes teams to the next level. Unlike guys like Watson, Carr, Dak, Cousins, even maybe Lamar, Kyler etc… he has the “it” and sooner than later the fanbase will see it.