Matt Corral post to instagram

[CPantherKing]

3 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

Most 3rd round qb picks don’t.

There have been 79 championship QBs in the NFL since 1981. 10 of them are 3rd round picks and only 29 3rd round QBs have been given an opportunity to lead a franchise (34.5%). 40.7% of 1st round QBs who have received an opportunity to lead a franchise have joined this championship game club since the 80s.

So, most 1st round picks don't succeed either, and they have the expectation of succeeding.

For comparison, 6th round to undrafted QBs who have been given a chance to lead a franchise have made it to the championship club 18.9% of the time.

If you just focus on successful franchise QBs who were able to get a team to commit to them for at least 2 seasons, then 50.6 of 1st round QBs, 58.8% of 3rd round QBs  and 30.4% of 6th round to undrafted QBs get to championship status.

So, if a team were to commit to Matt Corral for 2 seasons, there is a high probability he will get to the playoffs, a higher probability he would get to a championship game compared to 1st round picks, and an even higher probability he would get to a SB faster than a 1st round pick.

Now, if your question is about 1st rounders being given franchise opportunities at a greater rate than 3rd round picks, you would be correct. You can't factor in QBs who are never given a scarce franchise opportunity when measuring success or ability. There will always be more QBs available to draft in a single season than there are franchise QB opportunities, and there will always be the Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Roger Staubach, Mark Rypien, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, and Brad Johnson QBs that are never realized as the Justin Fields, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, David Klingler, Rick Mirer, Jeff George, Tim Couch, David Carr, Sam Bradford, and Jameis Winston QBs consume and waste these franchise opportunities at insanely increasing rates over the past 15 seasons.

[travisura]

3 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

There have been 79 championship QBs in the NFL since 1981. 10 of them are 3rd round picks and only 29 3rd round QBs have been given an opportunity to lead a franchise (34.5%). 40.7% of 1st round QBs who have received an opportunity to lead a franchise have joined this championship game club since the 80s.

So, most 1st round picks don't succeed either, and they have the expectation of succeeding.

For comparison, 6th round to undrafted QBs who have been given a chance to lead a franchise have made it to the championship club 18.9% of the time.

If you just focus on successful franchise QBs who were able to get a team to commit to them for at least 2 seasons, then 50.6 of 1st round QBs, 58.8% of 3rd round QBs  and 30.4% of 6th round to undrafted QBs get to championship status.

So, if a team were to commit to Matt Corral for 2 seasons, there is a high probability he will get to the playoffs, a higher probability he would get to a championship game compared to 1st round picks, and an even higher probability he would get to a SB faster than a 1st round pick.

Now, if your question is about 1st rounders being given franchise opportunities at a greater rate than 3rd round picks, you would be correct. You can't factor in QBs who are never given a scarce franchise opportunity when measuring success or ability. There will always be more QBs available to draft in a single season than there are franchise QB opportunities, and there will always be the Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Roger Staubach, Mark Rypien, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, and Brad Johnson QBs that are never realized as the Justin Fields, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, David Klingler, Rick Mirer, Jeff George, Tim Couch, David Carr, Sam Bradford, and Jameis Winston QBs consume and waste these franchise opportunities at insanely increasing rates over the past 15 seasons.

What happened to us drafting all four qbs, dealing all of them, and trading for Lamar Jackson? Doesn’t seem like it went that way. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Wow, Huddle ruthless as ever. So fast to turn on their own. Maybe he was talking about the fans lol.

[OldhamA]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

He was a bad pick anyway. That much was fairly obvious at the time.

 

Nah, it's always worth drafting QBs - you should always carry 3 and be looking to develop one at all times. 

Even if he just turns out to be a backup QB, for a 3rd round pick that's great value. 

Granted he got injured in the pre-season, and he's taller / bigger than the guy we just spent the #1 overall pick on, but I digress. 

[TheBigKat]

instead of competing like Kirk Cousins did when the Redskins had RGKnee, he pouts.... what a "leader"

[Barney]

Buckle up and compete. 

[ForJimmy]

36 minutes ago, travisura said:

What happened to us drafting all four qbs, dealing all of them, and trading for Lamar Jackson? Doesn’t seem like it went that way. 

He also said we were trading up for Anderson. Wanted us to draft Glass (now in the USFL) and hire some USFL HC as OC. He desperately wants to be the smartest person in the room, he just falls short a lot…

[NAS]

I wish the kid would get a fair chance but this post is unnecessary attention seeking 

[ForJimmy]

I kind of like Corral as the project QB3. He would do well in our new offense with RPOs mixed in it. If he is truly unhappy though there is no need to keep him around. 

[cookinbrak]

Straight trade for Chase Young. Do it. Now.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

Nah, it's always worth drafting QBs - you should always carry 3 and be looking to develop one at all times. 

Even if he just turns out to be a backup QB, for a 3rd round pick that's great value. 

Granted he got injured in the pre-season, and he's taller / bigger than the guy we just spent the #1 overall pick on, but I digress. 

You don't trade up to get a mid round QB in one of the worst QB classes in recent memory. That's just stupid.

It shouldn't be a shock to anyone if we move on, nor if he never plays any meaningful snaps in the NFL.

[Ricky Spanish]

Feel for the guy but those kinds of posts are for WRs, not QBs. 

[scpanther22]

Don't understand why anyone could dislike him for feeling slighted. Fans are so fake here lol

[Asup]

Not really trying to jump to his defense but is that post real? I follow that dude on insta and the only thing he posted at the time of the draft was a picture of all ole miss dudes drafted. Guy doesn't have a twitter and I cant find that post anywhere.

It would just suck to have a fanbase turn on a guy because of a fake post