Tuesday OTA's

[jayboogieman]

14 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Tuesday's practice was part of a voluntary minicamp. A few players were missing, including new tight end Hayden Hurst (again, it's voluntary) and Burns (who had ankle surgery last week).

Not a good way to make an impression on the new team, Hurst. Cut him and draft his replacement!

 

Is that the proper overreaction to that news?

[Jackie Lee]

3 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Not a good way to make an impression on the new team, Hurst. Cut him and draft his replacement!

 

Is that the proper overreaction to that news?

No matter the post or reply we can't get anyone off the QB debate threads. At least this is an Alt free zone lol.  

[ForJimmy]

5 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Not a good way to make an impression on the new team, Hurst. Cut him and draft his replacement!

 

Is that the proper overreaction to that news?

He hates football. Is he holding out for more money??? Check Reddit.

[jayboogieman]

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

No matter the post or reply we can't get anyone off the QB debate threads. At least this is an Alt free zone lol.  

The QB debate will rage until next draft. These guys aren't going to let it go once the season starts just because they want to be able to say I told you so to those in the opposite camp.

[jayboogieman]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

He hates football. Is he holding out for more money??? Check Reddit.

And Twitter and Facebook!

[Jackie Lee]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He hates football. Is he holding out for more money??? Check Reddit.

I'm a little concerned that he lives in Jacksonville Florida by choice, but TE's are a rare breed and it helps if they're a little bit off. We've been way too soft at the position as of late

[Bear Hands]

44 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Shenault?

He seems more gadget-y to me.  Want someone with more shiftiness and speed than LS, although he did grade out very well; he was in slot 51.5% of his snaps which accounted for 50 snaps in the slot the entire year.  

[Bear Hands]

5 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

He seems more gadget-y to me.  Want someone with more shiftiness and speed than LS, although he did grade out very well; he was in slot 51.5% of his snaps which accounted for 50 snaps in the slot the entire year.  

For comparison, Shi Smith was played in the slot for 266 passing snaps which accounted for 78.7% of his snaps.  That accounted for 38 targets with only 22 receptions.  We could really use a slot upgrade.  Smith was graded 110th out of 113 eligible receivers.

Edited April 25, 2023 by Bear Hands

[Jackie Lee]

7 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

He seems more gadget-y to me.  Want someone with more shiftiness and speed than LS, although he did grade out very well; he was in slot 51.5% of his snaps which accounted for 50 snaps in the slot the entire year.  

He can return kicks and block very well so I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the team. Thomas Brown was a returner so I know he's not gonna easily accept having Shi or Chuba back there 

[Jackie Lee]

7 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

For comparison, Shi Smith was played in the slot for 266 passing snaps which accounted for 78.7% of his snaps.  That accounted for 38 targets with only 22 receptions.  We could really use a slot upgrade.  Smith was graded 110th out of 113 eligible receivers.

Thielen is definitely starting in the slot

[RJK]

12 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

The QB debate will rage until next draft. These guys aren't going to let it go once the season starts just because they want to be able to say I told you so to those in the opposite camp.

Weird flex crowing how right u were to a bunch of people who don’t care lol

[ladypanther]

25 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

He seems more gadget-y to me.  Want someone with more shiftiness and speed than LS, although he did grade out very well; he was in slot 51.5% of his snaps which accounted for 50 snaps in the slot the entire year.  

Was that his fault?

 

[Bear Hands]

6 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

Was that his fault?

 

Unsure.  Shi's usage didn't really change after we landed Shenault.  Once here, we brought Laviska in on very specific playcalls so he just seemed to be used in a more creative fashion.  That was with Rhule and then a dismantled hodge-podge staff so we'll see. 

Even in JAX, his slot play was still in the 57% range of his passing snaps.  Only 27% his rookie year.  

Edited April 25, 2023 by Bear Hands

[ladypanther]

2 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Unsure.  Shi's usage didn't really change after we landed Shenault.  Once here, we brought Laviska in on very specific playcalls so he just seemed to be used in a more creative fashion.  That was with Rhule and then a dismantled hodge-podge staff so we'll see. 

Even in JAX, his slot play was still in the 57% range of his passing snaps.  Only 27% his rookie year.  

It will be interesting how the new staff evaluates him and if they think they can get more usage for him.  Looking forward to that with a lot of players.