NFL model analytics player compares

[Lame Duck]

They plugged intangibles into their models and compared to active players who made transition from college to NFL in last 10-15 years

Bryce Young - Teddy Bridgewater/Tua

Stroud - Wentz

Levis- Darnold/Cutler

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-draft-pro-comparisons-and-analytical-team-fits-for-top-quarterback-pros

 

[Varking]

The best Teddy 2 Gloves ever was, was NFL average. And both Teddy and Tua spend forever hurt. That’s not good. 

Wentz had one elite season and then injuries seem to ruin him.

Darnold was never good. Cutler was exciting but never great.

 

If these are the comparisons, this is a bad class lol.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

They plugged intangibles into their models and compared to active players who made transition from college to NFL in last 10-15 years

Bryce Young - Teddy Bridgewater/Tua

Stroud - Wentz

Levis- Darnold/Cutler

Were they only looking for bad comps?

[PleaseCutStewart]

These are some weird comparisons. Literally - I don't see one commonality between Young and Teddy 2 Gloves...

Wentz never had the accuracy that Stroud does right now.

And if the comparison between Levis & Darnold is that they will both be/are busts, then sure I agree.

[run-run-pass-punt]

23 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

They plugged intangibles into their models

 

I don't think they understand the meaning of the word "intangibles".

Edit: or you

Edited April 23, 2023 by run-run-pass-punt

[rayzor]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Were they only looking for bad comps?

Yeah I'm not seeing this poo at all and neither are the majority of minds out there. Pretty lame comps.

[LinvilleGorge]

Focusing so heavily on recency is going to really limit your potential comps. I do think Brees and Wilson are the best comps for Young. Brees-like passer, though Brees had an advantage both in a strength and pure accuracy IMO. Wilson-like in mobility.

[rayzor]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Focusing so heavily on recency is going to really limit your potential comps. I do think Brees and Wilson are the best comps for Young. Brees-like passer, though Brees had an advantage both in a strength and pure accuracy IMO. Wilson-like in mobility.

This is what I've been seeing and I'm sticking with it until proved otherwise.

[ForJimmy]

24 minutes ago, Varking said:

The best Teddy 2 Gloves ever was, was NFL average. And both Teddy and Tua spend forever hurt. That’s not good. 

Wentz had one elite season and then injuries seem to ruin him.

Darnold was never good. Cutler was exciting but never great.

 

If these are the comparisons, this is a bad class lol.

Lol right. I was trying to figure out who he was arguing for… maybe Tua or Wentz if either could stay healthy?? Still don’t see Wentz in Stroud at all. Stroud is Goff with Burrow being his absolute ceiling if you want to do a comp ( which I don’t really understand as no two players are the same)

[TheCasillas]

54 minutes ago, Varking said:

The best Teddy 2 Gloves ever was, was NFL average. And both Teddy and Tua spend forever hurt. That’s not good. 

Wentz had one elite season and then injuries seem to ruin him.

Darnold was never good. Cutler was exciting but never great.

 

If these are the comparisons, this is a bad class lol.

they are comparing the positives of those player, not the negatives. How they landed on those players is total opinionated because it is the authors custom "algorythm" 

Edited April 23, 2023 by TheCasillas

[Pup McBarky]

41 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

They plugged intangibles into their models

The term "intangible" means it cannot be measured. Literally.

Then there's this from the article:

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The goal for the comps: showing some of the strengths, weaknesses and unknown résumé aspects for each prospect, while offering a perspective to approximate how team analytics departments might view the player's potential NFL impact.

Yeah. Her magic models are gonna show us "unknown resume aspects" for each prospect?

That's some damn wizardry right there. These comps are about as accurate as all the others. Nothing but guesses.

[rayzor]

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

they are comparing the positives of those player, not the negatives. How they landed on those players is total opinionated because it is the authors custom "algorythm" 

Agreed. They started out with an idea that they didn't think highly of this class and put in data that would fit whatever narrative they wanted to roll with.

 

[Lame Duck]

Just now, rayzor said:

Agreed. They started out with an idea that they didn't think highly of this class and put in data that would fit whatever narrative they wanted to roll with.

 

Seems like only huddle thinks highly of this class.  This class is so good that #2 needy Houston looking to trade down.

[rayzor]

4 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

Seems like only huddle thinks highly of this class.  This class is so good that #2 needy Houston looking to trade down.

We only need one to work and we've got our eyes set on the right one.

I think this class is really good, but Houston needs help everywhere ave they've got a lot of picks. They can come back at 12 and still get their franchise guy.