Could a trade be on the horizon...(Vegas shift at number 2)

[KatsAzz]

2 hours ago, stan786 said:

I guess I feel like Strouds struggles handling pressure and working off script, Levis’s pressure/accuracy issues, and Richardsons accuracy could eventually limit an offense just as much if not more than Youngs size. The offense we are rumored to be building looks to be heavily RPO and empty sets both of which Bryce excels at. Eagles and Chiefs were in shotgun a ton last year

All these guys have flaws that can dictate what you can and can’t call, the difference is Bryce will be able to move you in and out of plays, read the defense, and help us maximize his strengths.

Every QB has a system that maximizes their Strengths and it’s up to the coaches to get it out of them. Our coaches clearly seem to think the talent and what he brings compared to the others outweighs any offensive limitations.

Good post. Your evaluations of the top rated QB"s in the 2023 NFL Draft were very accurate and concise.

I especially like your statement about how Bryce Young is different than the other 3 top rated QB's.

 ("The difference is Bryce will be able to move you in and out of plays, read the defense, and help us maximize his strengths.")

[KatsAzz]

50 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

His size seriously affects his ability to play QB at an elite level in the NFL.

I feel sure lots of people said that at ever level he has played and he has proved them all wrong, so I see no reason he will not prove the present naysayers wrong again.

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, toldozer said:

Can't trade back to 4 and end up with Levis. 2 is fine.  I think I've shifted my stance to Richardson,  young,  stroud.  Might as well go for the home run with a large chance of striking out

Fans think that way.

Guys whose jobs depend on being right, not so much.

[amcoolio]

4 hours ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

Levis could end up being the Josh Allen of this draft. I just pray that Young is not the Baker Mayfield of this draft.  I think the Panthers are on the precipice of a horrible mistake.

Mayfield doesn't have the intelligence, processing, or work ethic of Young. 

Young will only fail if he gets constantly injured. If he stays healthy all year, he's already the best quarterback we've had since 2017, even as a rookie

[ForJimmy]

3 hours ago, stan786 said:

100% and I don’t have a problem with people liking other QBs more, I just think a lot are writing Bryce off prematurely.

Writing off the most popularly rank top QB of this draft would be incredibly foolish. I like Stroud, but am very excited about what Young brings to the table. I keep going back to I prefer Stroud, but passing on Young scares me. I’m ready to get my Young jersey and support our new QB. People completely writing him off are just mad we aren’t getting their favorite player or are just plain haters. 

[Shocker]

I think Levis has more red flags than a Russian parade.  It would be so Josh McDaniels to trade up for him

[mickeye76]

If the two is moved it won't be us moving down.  A trade from 2 is not likely to net a huge bounty. The Texans will want to stay in the top 10 and then also have that 12th pick and 33 plus whatever they get for the 2nd. That could be a franchise changing draft much like hopefully ours will be. But if the Texans are playing the long game and waiting till next year to go QB it could work to their advantage. We did not have that luxury. At least the Texans had a Watson in recent memory but he is a predator.  We have not had a QB in such a long time. Somebody moving up to get our scraps whether at 3 or 2. CJ and his test and Levis being himself in all his "glory" will not deter teams that want to develop a QB and compete in a different time frame than the Texans for instance.

That makes the 5,6,7, and 8th pick the ones likely to shake it up. Seattle likes Geno but developing a AR behind him gives them an edge in the future after Geno. The Lions have been "Goffed" similar to the term "nerfed" if your familiar with gaming.  A Levis or AR could push that offense to perennial contenders not whatever it is they have been doing since Goff became the guy. Then you have the Raiders who finally moved on from Carr only to replace him with a less creative passer in Jimmy GQ.  Vegas is a flashy city the fans will like Jimmy but a Levis fits the bill better for the long term. The Falcons may actually be content with Ridder at least till next year but...  Moving up to take whoever we don't is some classic bitter rivalry stuff.  So that only leaves the Titans who have accomplished all they can with Tannehill at the helm.  They are out of the top 10 but back to back picks in the top 15 could still entice the Texans. 

Who knows? Man that 1st round is gonna be bonkers.  Could Aaron Rodgers get traded on draft night? Who will make the trades to completely destroy all your mock predictions?  Who is over drafted? Who slips?  Is it Thursday yet? 

[Pantherzilla91]

Trading to #4 would be beyond stupid.

We are not trading.

[Mr. Scot]

6 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

WIll Levis is the second best QB in this draft. 

It might turn out to be true.

[ForJimmy]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

It might turn out to be true.

2nd drafted or 2nd best?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

2nd drafted or 2nd best?

Hell, he could turn out to be the best.

Pre-draft evaluations are far from perfect.

[Eric4280]

6 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

WIll Levis is the second best QB in this draft. 

Media/ low hanging fruit make it easy for someone to make you sound crazy for saying this. Yet dudes got nothing but smeared the entire draft process because the talking heads say it’s ok. Does two goofy dumb things and he’s apparently not worthy. Question someones 18% test score and “that’s unfair to pin against that person”. Hypocritical crap. We’ve seen Levis floor because he’s played with dog water. Wouldn’t shock me if Levis were second best in this class. And I know this comment alone people are gonna find some overthought garbage to fight it. Disclaimer- I’m aware of his season last season, I’m aware of the injury, the quirks, etc.

[Jackie Lee]

5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I am starting to think he will be.  Starting to get the Allen vibes with him--put him behind a good OL and give him some credible targets, his decision-making would "suddenly" improve.  You could say the same for AR, but there are other variables and preferences the Colts might need to consider.

Did you see him throw at his pro day? Horrible, and he was huffing and puffing halfway through like the roids and mayo started giving him negative side affects 

[FuFuLamePoo]

Levis is a solid QB prospect that’s an easy first round pick in every draft ever. Obviously taking him at 1 would be insane, but I think the smear campaigns have gone a bit too far. Won’t be a bit surprised if he finds success in this league. Had we not traded up to 1 I probably would have talked myself into the idea of taking him at 9 by now if he fell there.