*apparently false scores leaked* STROUD SCORES 18% ON S2 TEST (or maybe not)

[The Lobo]

15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Wonderlic and S2 are very different. Wonderlic is basically general intelligence. There's a timed aspect but it's not the primary focus. S2 is all about processing speed. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some decent correlation between the two but they measure pretty different mental abilities.

But yeah, intelligence isn't the end all be all. I doubt Einstein would've made much of a QB.

Does the string theory have any effect on cover 3? 

[electro's horse]

6 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

You litrally provided zero evidence of anything quantifyng those player's athleticism... 

Peyton Manning was never known for his arm strength... Even his scouting report stated "good arm strength, but not great" 

Tom Brady what on earth does him staying healthy have to do with athleticism? How is that even a comment in your reply to me? It's not even relative. So im going to leave this one as is. We all know TB12 is not an athletic QB.

Joe Burrow I'd love for you to share data supporting this.. Joe Burrow didnt even have a recorded RAS scorecard. 

His estimated "athlete score" was in the 70th percentile... His scouting reports are consistent with: Below-average arm strength and average release quickness

 

I would suggest not dying on this hill, bc it isnt worth it. 

Cam newtons scouting report said fake smile. 
 

that same article lists criticisms of Peyton that his ball flutters, he’s too serious, and his vertical isn’t good enough. You have the gift of hindsight. What person would look back on Peyton’s career, every throw he ever made, and go “yeah that’s a below average arm.”

You don’t think staying healthy is an ability? 
 

and lmao RASS. Must be embarrassing for all those DBS with good RASS scores when burrow perfectly places passes right out of their reach. Or all the defensive lineman he jukes out of their shoes.

there’s this huge trend among pasty white nerds to try to turn football in to baseball as far as predictive stats.
 

Good lord dude you just posted an anonymous quarter century Scouting blurb saying Peyton Manning didn’t have great arm strength. you could have simply not done that. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

People keep correlating this test to intellect.  That is not its purpose.  

Think it of a multitasking stimuli type of test.  How much/quickly can you process situations.  

I think of "football intelligence" as kind of a skill set.

A guy like Gronkowski comes off dumb as a brick but he knew his football well enough.

Processing speed is a pretty big deal too. I know people that could probably solve just about any problem given enough time. If something has to be solved within like three minutes or so though, they're probably gonna fail.

[Newtcase]

42 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Just going by the things they've said and done leading up to this point. Everyone is basing their opinions on the fact that Young is the odds on favorite according to media projections. Past experience says the media is almost always wrong with these things. The Huddle concensus is always wrong as well. In reality there is not much difference in a few of these guys as far as ability. Young has more tape and better coaching with more college success on his resume.  Maybe I'm more worried that it won't be him and that's why I'm not buying it until the name is called.  I'm just not ready to say it's Young just because all the questions they get are about Young. 

Vegas has Bryce at -1200 and Stroud at +800.  I agree, it's not a lock until the name is called, but these betting odds suggest it's a lock.

Edited April 21, 2023 by Newtcase

[96Bravo]

Wow. There's already 11 pages on a post created an hour ago. 

All I know is Kurt Warner broke down one of Stroud's worst games and show how good CJ was at reading defenses and going through progressions quickly, making the right decisions. 

This info comes out a week before the draft? Gee, I wonder why?

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, The Lobo said:

Does the string theory have any effect on cover 3? 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You wouldn't call Fitzpatrick a success?

I know he's not exactly a Hall of Famer but I wouldn't say he's a bust either.

Between Stroud and Young either one could be a bust or be HoF player. But we shall see when these 2 are on the field to show what they can do.

[kass]

9 minutes ago, ChuckWag78 said:

And I don't buy you can't get better at this test

If so, isn't that a red flag.  

Everyone prepares for the draft, but this dude does not. 

They say Bryce have taken this test for years. 

Again, Why haven't CJ done that... 

And is anyone actually saying he have never taken it before? This might be his best result over the years..  

 

Combine the news that he is hard to coach, and there is a test you can improve on by training and "everyone" is scoring better than that person.

[Black&BlueBubba]

 

[Newtcase]

46 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've been a Stroud proponent, which is funny because when it comes to quarterbacks, I'm normally a guy who cares less about measurables and more about intangibles.

Young is absolutely everything that I would want a quarterback to be. He's smart, he processes well, he's an accurate passer, all the most important stuff.

But yes, I worry about his durability. Especially so because you know other teams are going to try to hit him as hard as possible. And I think you can get pretty close to Young's intangibles with Stroud while not having the durability concerns.

Ultimately though, I think Young will be the guy so I just have to commit to cringing and covering my eyes when he takes a hit

How can you say without durability concerns?  I enjoy your insights but that's just using conjecture to support Stroud.  This is the NFL, anyone can get destroyed on any play.  

Also are you suggesting that NFL teams try to hit small quarterbacks harder than they hit big ones.

Edited April 21, 2023 by Newtcase

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Does the string theory have any effect on cover 3? 

I don't know, but the vibrations from watching our terrible QB play in recent years certainly still reverberate on my nightmares. That opens a whole new conversation about how string theory interacts with consciousness.

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

1 minute ago, 96Bravo said:

Wow. There's already 11 pages on a post created an hour ago. 

All I know is Kurt Warner broke down one of Stroud's worst games and show how good CJ was at reading defenses and going through progressions quickly, making the right decisions. 

This info comes out a week before the draft? Gee, I wonder why?

CJ Stroud is being discredited just because of an alleged test score which doesn't mean much. 

[TheCasillas]

5 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Cam newtons scouting report said fake smile. 
 

that same article lists criticisms of Peyton that his ball flutters, he’s too serious, and his vertical isn’t good enough. You have the gift of hindsight. What person would look back on Peyton’s career, every throw he ever made, and go “yeah that’s a below average arm.”

You don’t think staying healthy is an ability? 
 

and lmao RASS. Must be embarrassing for all those DBS with good RASS scores when burrow perfectly places passes right out of their reach. Or all the defensive lineman he jukes out of their shoes.

there’s this huge trend among pasty white nerds to try to turn football in to baseball as far as predictive stats.
 

Good lord dude you just posted an anonymous quarter century Scouting blurb saying Peyton Manning didn’t have great arm strength. you could have simply not done that. 

dude.. you are way off topic... this has nothing to do with any of my original comment. If you are looking for someone to argue with... I am not the one. 

[Black&BlueBubba]