Ben Allbright on Top 3

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Lame Duck said:

But what if Young is not our target and we can still get our guy while picking up extra early 2nd rounder?

A) It just doesnt work like that in the nfl

B) I seriously doubt the panthers could pull this type of move off.  I know its a new era but incompetence has been the name of the game for this franchise for the better part of 30 year

 

But if Fitt did pull it off he would ascend to next level

[FuFuLamePoo]

1 hour ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

The visits aren't even over but somehow everyone knows our pick but us 

Visits play a very small role in this decision making process in my opinion. I think like 85% film, 10% combine, 5% visits is how these teams make decisions 

[FuFuLamePoo]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Albright is just guessing. Heck, he said so himself.

The people who actually do have inside  connections pretty much all say the final decision isn't made yet.

Are Adam Schefter, Chris Mortensen, Albert Breer, Lance Zierlein, Peter King, all just guessing to when they say this is basically done? I’m not even someone that cares too strongly who the team selects. It can be Stroud, Young or Richardson and I’m all in. But this feels like a done deal barring an unforeseen late development.

[Billy Goat]

29 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

And there are several who really like CJ in the organization. I bet it’s going down to the wire. 

Is it enough though? We know McCown is one judging by the scouting video he did but he'll have little say. It's assumed Reich is one based on the fact he's the correct size and weight. Most reports seem to suggest Fitterer, Tepper and Brown are in the Young camp.

Ultimately I think there's more big hitters in the Young camp than the Stroud camp and that's what has/will swing the decision.

[Mage]

10 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

But what if Young is not our target and we can still get our guy while picking up extra early 2nd rounder?

I don't think some of you realize how connected teams are.  Remember when the Saints leapfrogged us for a player they knew we were going to pick up?  Every NFL team is littered with guys who hear these things.

If Young isn't the Panthers target, then the Texans would be aware of this at the very least, by draft day.  And so they would have no reason to engage in trade talks with the Panthers because they know they will get their guy at #2... unless you think the Panthers would take Young out of spite, which is a foolish way to run a team.

Again, like someone said... if the Texans wanted #1 that bad, they were in the absolute best spot of any team in the NFL to do so.  But they didn't.  Bears could have gotten picks from them and then traded #2 for more picks/players.  Panthers are not playing some special ops mission trying to fool the Texans into trading up to #1.  Panthers are picking No. 1 overall, which is why they traded DJ Moore.

Edited April 15, 2023 by Mage

[ncfan]

1 hour ago, CashNewton22 said:

I think the uncoachable thing came from the Texans honestly. I wouldn’t be shocked if CJ was stand offish towards them due to his relationship with Watson/his agent.

 

[ncfan]

11 minutes ago, Mage said:

I don't think some of you realize how connected teams are.  Remember when the Saints leapfrogged us for a player they knew we were going to pick up?  Every NFL team is littered with guys who hear these things.

If Young isn't the Panthers target, then the Texans would be aware of this at the very least, by draft day.  And so they would have no reason to engage in trade talks with the Panthers because they know they will get their guy at #2... unless you think the Panthers would take Young out of spite, which is a foolish way to run a team.

Again, like someone said... if the Texans wanted #1 that bad, they were in the absolute best spot of any team in the NFL to do so.  But they didn't.  Bears could have gotten picks from them and then traded #2 for more picks/players.  Panthers are not playing some special ops mission trying to fool the Texans into trading up to #1.  Panthers are picking No. 1 overall, which is why they traded DJ Moore.

Bu bu but

[ncfan]

16 minutes ago, Billy Goat said:

Is it enough though? We know McCown is one judging by the scouting video he did but he'll have little say. It's assumed Reich is one based on the fact he's the correct size and weight. Most reports seem to suggest Fitterer, Tepper and Brown are in the Young camp.

Ultimately I think there's more big hitters in the Young camp than the Stroud camp and that's what has/will swing the decision.

We also know McCown likes Young as well if you watched all the series

We know Thomas Brown (the guy who is literally designing the offense) likes Young.

We know Tepper likes Young.

There’s been reports Fitty likes Young.

It’s now known via either Joe Person or Gantt yesterday that Samir Suleiman likes Young.

 

 

and we know McCown likes Stroud as well off a handshake and comp on a video series where he broke down 10 plays of the best game of Strouds career

[OldhamA]

28 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Are Adam Schefter, Chris Mortensen, Albert Breer, Lance Zierlein, Peter King, all just guessing to when they say this is basically done? I’m not even someone that cares too strongly who the team selects. It can be Stroud, Young or Richardson and I’m all in. But this feels like a done deal barring an unforeseen late development.

Yes.

[Verge]

The Jaguars were visiting with Zach Wilson in late March in 2021, but like....c'mon. 

[OldhamA]

31 minutes ago, Mage said:

I don't think some of you realize how connected teams are.  Remember when the Saints leapfrogged us for a player they knew we were going to pick up?  Every NFL team is littered with guys who hear these things.

If Young isn't the Panthers target, then the Texans would be aware of this at the very least, by draft day.  And so they would have no reason to engage in trade talks with the Panthers because they know they will get their guy at #2... unless you think the Panthers would take Young out of spite, which is a foolish way to run a team.

Again, like someone said... if the Texans wanted #1 that bad, they were in the absolute best spot of any team in the NFL to do so.  But they didn't.  Bears could have gotten picks from them and then traded #2 for more picks/players.  Panthers are not playing some special ops mission trying to fool the Texans into trading up to #1.  Panthers are picking No. 1 overall, which is why they traded DJ Moore.

We've been repeatedly told that the 'brains trust' hasn't met to discuss who their QB is - so everything is just conjecture.

With regards to the trade - I suspect the Texans didn't expect a team would give up so much for the #1 overall pick. They enquired about it with the Bears, but balked at the price. 

This whole situation only works if the Texans think Young is a franchise QB - again that's just rumours at this point, we've no idea what their Draft board looks like either. 

Yes, teams leak things to each other, but not the entire Draft board.

[Jaxel]

6 minutes ago, Verge said:

The Jaguars were visiting with Zach Wilson in late March in 2021, but like....c'mon. 

I think they have a very strong idea of who their guy is at this point and it would take something astronomical to change their mind.

[amcoolio]

I still think this is a giant smokescreen and we are trying to make the Texans panic into give us 32 and 2 for 1, and that we like both Stroud and Young equally

[CPF4LIFE]

31 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I still think this is a giant smokescreen and we are trying to make the Texans panic into give us 32 and 2 for 1, and that we like both Stroud and Young equally

This. The panthers honestly have no reason not to smoke screen all the way up till the draft. What do they have to lose? Dont know why this is so hard understand. Much as i dont like the mind games, they can only benefit from them in the end even if its small. Only people getting upsets are the ones that know it just means that it would lessen the chances of getting the guy they keep gawking over. You cant predict when a trade will happen up till draft night.