Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Did the S2 TEST take CJ out?

Ivory Panther

By Ivory Panther,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Julio Enthusiast

Julio

Posted
Posted
39 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

from Person this morning, regarding Richardson:
 

The Florida quarterback with the Cam Newton-like physiqueremains under consideration by the Panthers, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. 


You Young lovers better not get too comfortable. Lol

*Person made a note that this was only in the unlikely case they trade down.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Matthias Proficient

Matthias

Posted
Posted (edited)

I read a random comment saying Young has taken this test (or something similar) since he was in high school.  I don't know if this is true, but I wouldn't doubt it seeing his dad is a psychologist or something like that.  It brings up an interesting point of whether this test is more of a standardized one, something you can prep for and get better at it the more you take it.  According to Albert Breer, Young scored a 98.

All that said, if I were an agent for future first round value QBs, I would tell them straight up, "DON'T TAKE THIS TEST"!!!!!  According to some, Stroud should now go undrafted because of this test. (Being funny)

Edited by Matthias
  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sgt Schultz Grand Master

Sgt Schultz

Posted
Posted

Everybody is looking for some way to predict whether a QB (or any position) will work out if they are drafted.

The problem I see, just from what I have read, is the proponents say the S2 correctly identified several prospects as hits and they were.

Who else did it identify as hits that were not?  Who did it not identify as a hit that were?

Numbers can be dangerous things.  I'm not saying the S2 is NOT a good identifier, I just can't conclude that based on identifying 5 or 6 guys that turned out great without knowing the false alarms or misses.

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
carpanfan96 Veteran

carpanfan96

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, Matthias said:

I read a random comment saying Young has taken this test (or something similar) since he was in high school.  I don't know if this is true, but I wouldn't doubt it seeing his dad is a psychologist or something like that.  It brings up an interesting point of whether this test is more of a standardized one, something you can prep for and get better at it the more you take it.  According to Albert Breer, Young scored a 98.

All that said, if I were an agent for future first round value QBs, I would tell them straight up, "DON'T TAKE THIS TEST"!!!!!  According to some, Stroud should now go undrafted because of this test. (Being funny)

Think of a memory test type of thing. 

 

Say you have 10 objects on a wall and each light up in a pattern very quickly. You've got to remember the pattern by watching the whole area at once since they light up so quickly. 

 

Those are facets of the test 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
run-run-pass-punt Rising Star

run-run-pass-punt

Posted
Posted

You'll never have any aptitude or intelligence test that results in a 1:1 "this QB will succeed and this one will fail" clarity. There will be correlations to greater or lesser degree, but there will *always* be an element of conjecture in evaluating any potential draft pick. As desperate as teams are to make it "hard science", it's ultimately a fools errand, and intuition will always be an important factor. You have to have evaluators with "football eyes", and even then, they will never be able to avoid misses entirely. Fingers crossed.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mav1234 Grand Master

mav1234

Posted
Posted
17 minutes ago, Matthias said:

I read a random comment saying Young has taken this test (or something similar) since he was in high school.  I don't know if this is true, but I wouldn't doubt it seeing his dad is a psychologist or something like that.  It brings up an interesting point of whether this test is more of a standardized one, something you can prep for and get better at it the more you take it.  According to Albert Breer, Young scored a 98.

All that said, if I were an agent for future first round value QBs, I would tell them straight up, "DON'T TAKE THIS TEST"!!!!!  According to some, Stroud should now go undrafted because of this test. (Being funny)

I'm skeptical there is any standardly applied test that you wouldn't improve on taking multiple times.  It wouldn't necessarily be that a player is learning the answers themselves... Rather, learning the best way that works for themselves in taking the test.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • MHS831
      [The Athletic] Dane Brugler's 2025 7-round Mock Draft

      By MHS831 · Posted

      I have been on the Bech bandwagon since well before the SR Bowl.  Hoping that he would stay a hidden gem and we'd be smart enough to grab him late.  I just don't think Morgan cares as much about WR as we do
    • toldozer
      Game thread

      By toldozer · Posted

      No one had posted in a month.  I don't think any of us were watching
    • MHS831
      General Draft Rumors/Speculation Thread

      By MHS831 · Posted

      Here is how this draft could get mind-blowingly complicated--Interesting comment about Jags floating the Jeanty idea to lure Chicago into a trade.  I have to think Ben Johnson is going to duplicate in many ways the success he had in Detroit, and I have to think their free agency was following the blueprint Carolina designed last year (one that the Saints designed before them with Brees) and they upgraded all of their interior linemen.  RT in Chicago is set; Johnson loves RT Darnell Wright.  However, at LT, Braxton Jones is coming off a December injury and is considered to be in a competition for the position this year by at least a few fans on the Bears Wire.  His PFF score, however, was solid, posting an 80+ score in pass protection and 70+ score in run blocking.  He is in his prime.  However, in some of their fan mocks, the Bears are taking a LT.  I thought they needed an Edge to play 4-3 strong side across from Sweat, but they signed Odeyingbo to a pretty big contract in March. For the Bears, in my view, it comes down to TE or Running Back. Kmet is their #1 TE and he had 474 yards in that role, which was 25th in the NFL last season for TEs.  Adding Warren would help upgrade the TE spot and give them the ability to add around an estimated 80 yards of production per game.  The Bears have D'Andre Swift at RB, but could use a RB to pair with him for a desired 2 RB attack.  So if I am Da Bears, I stay at 10 and take Warren.  If the Jags want to move on from Etienne, then they will take Jeanty. I think, if I were the Jags (with 10 picks this year) I would take Mason Graham and not try to get an 11th pick.  It is a need position, and it seems to me the only reason they are toying with the idea of moving on from Etienne is because Jeanty is on the board.  That, to me, would be a luxury pick. New GM, I think he does not get cute--they take Graham if they stay at 5.  I might say the Jags' biggest need is Corner.  #5 is too rich for Will Johnson, but remember, they have 10 picks.  could they move up with Cleveland and take Hunter, giving them a CB and WR threat?  To me, with the draft capital they have, that is the move they should make.  Cleveland then could move back to #5.  Remember, Nick Chubb is an aging (29) free agent coming off an injury--so he is gone.  With an additional second rounder, the Browns move back and take Jeanty to give Flacco a running game. The Jags pick is very interesting, but I would not be surprised to see them move up. 
×
×
  • Create New...