Thick smoke: CJ Stroud red flags coming out - "not an easy guy to coach," "CJ Stroud...giving the Carolina Panthers pause"

[PantherFanInPhilly]

Literally the first time I've ever heard anything negative in regards to Stroud's "coachability".  

[ForJimmy]

11 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Young Lion is calling B.S., seen this before.

I all seriousness if we do draft Young, Corral could develop into a solid backup for him.  Both are quick QBs that can avoid pressure and have quick accurate releases.  The playbook wouldn't have to change that much...

[joemac]

2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

To me that’s his biggest red flag. The pressure issues got better as the season progressed, but he has always had elite talent around him. It’s a question mark on how he can handle playing with lesser talent around him. He is still my preference, but I totally get it. 

I get this narrative, but lets not pretend that Alabama does not also trot out a team full of complete studs.  I know this past season he supposedly had no weapons or whatever, but its still Alabama.  That team is chock full of 5 star kids. 

[Martin]

2 hours ago, CmC2k said:

The big difference in why I believe we favor Bryce over CJ is that we saw Bryce's ability to elevate his team with a lesser supporting cast this year at Bama. We've also seen Bryce's ability to show up in big games and in the clutch find a way to win. With CJ we just haven't had the opportunity to see that skillset with how loaded Ohio states roster is. 

I think Bryce was fantastic, but this lesser supporting cast is just not true. Alabama is top 3 every year in recruiting rankings and the team is absolutely stacked. The only team with similar or slightly better recruiting is Georgia. They  also played a less than impressive schedule this year. They WRs might not be big names yet, but they also had the best receiving RB in college. Again, great player, really clutch etc. But he had the better team around him by far in close to all games they played.

[ForJimmy]

Just now, joemac said:

I get this narrative, but lets not pretend that Alabama does not also trot out a team full of complete studs.  I know this past season he supposedly had no weapons or whatever, but its still Alabama.  That team is chock full of 5 star kids. 

That's fair.  I just think Olave, Wilson, JSN, and MHJ would be overkill in the weapons department and his LT is probably going early in this draft.  Alabama is always loaded and Young wasn't playing with scrubs, but I think Stroud had some WRs running wide open a lot more than Young did.  It doesn't mean Stroud can't do it with less talent around him, it's just an unknown at this point.

[rippadonn]

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I all seriousness if we do draft Young, Corral could develop into a solid backup for him.  Both are quick QBs that can avoid pressure and have quick accurate releases.  The playbook wouldn't have to change that much...

Everyone in football is one play away. Looking at it this way and with what you just said, Young doesn't scare me as much IF they're keeping our boy. He's growing up, looking heavier than 212lbs too, hooked up with Jordan brand I see. 

[AggieLean]

I want Bryce, but this is silly. CJ seems to be a good kid. His coach and teammates have nothing but good to say about him, so all this is puzzling. Reminds me of that Nawrocki fake smile crap pushed on Cam. Still can’t believe you had posters defending that lol. 

[Panther'sBigD]

Trey Wingo is a real piece of poo to spread rumors like this, especially when draft order affects how much money these guys make on their first contract. We're lucky that we have two strong prospects like Young and Stroud to choose from. I'll be happy with either one. 

[rayzor]

20 minutes ago, PantherFanInPhilly said:

Literally the first time I've ever heard anything negative in regards to Stroud's "coachability".  

there was some talk last year about hi being "aloof" and not a strong leader, but i think that most of that was squashed soon thereafter.

[Matthias]

[csx]

This Alabama having inferior talent narrative is absurd. 

Take a look at the Rivals recruiting class rankings. I think Ohio State has 1 class ranked above Alabama in the last 10 plus years (2018)

Edited April 12, 2023 by csx

[Icege]

4 minutes ago, Panther'sBigD said:

Trey Wingo is a real piece of poo to spread rumors like this, especially when draft order affects how much money these guys make on their first contract. We're lucky that we have two strong prospects like Young and Stroud to choose from. I'll be happy with either one. 

Wingo didn't spread that he wasn't coachable tho?

[Panther'sBigD]

1 minute ago, Icege said:

Wingo didn't spread that he wasn't coachable tho?

WTF? It's right there in the first post. 

[Icege]

2 minutes ago, Panther'sBigD said:

WTF? It's right there in the first post. 

Michael Lombardi said he wasn't coachable. Wingo just said that there was stuff that was giving Carolina pause and then his co-host spoke for most of the clip.

Edited April 12, 2023 by Icege