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Bryce Young Film Breakdown Megathread

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2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

I don't hate Young, I'm just not impressed like you hype trainers.

Kyler Murray has 1000+ yards rushing coming out of college.

Bryce has 162

He's half the player Kyler is.

C'mon. The more stats and comps the more Bryce comes up short again.

 

But again, you're comparing rushing stats for two players who do not play the QB position the same way. Kyler is a scrambler who uses his speed and running ability as a natural part of his game. 

Bryce scrambles too but he scrambles to pass not to run and he can run but it's not one of his main traits.  

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3 hours ago, BlackPanther22 said:

Two things:

1. I feel like Tua comparisons are lazy because they don't play the same way and Tua had a lengthy injury history before coming into the league. Hell, he was injured pretty much throughout his entire pre-draft process I believe with a hip injury. Bryce has only had one injury that only cost him a game and a half. If the guy had a rap sheet of injuries I'd fully understand the sentiment but it's simply not true. Sure, he could get hurt more at the NFL level but so could 6'4 AR and 6'3 CJ. It's all about your play style, the line in front of you, and the make up of the offense to protect the QB. Luke was just on WFNZ last week talking about how hard it was to hit a smaller QB like Drew Brees. 

2. You can't even really compare Bryce hype to Zach Wilson hype because Bryce has been an extremely productive QB in college for multiple years in the best/most competitive conference in CFB and he didn't just pop up out of the blue in the same was Zach did. If anybody is the Zach Wilson/Josh Allen 'outta nowhere' prospect this year it's definitely AR as far as media hype is concerned. 

Like I get being cautious of the dude because he is an outlier but me personally, he's gotta show me on the field that he's an injury risk before I slap that label on him because to this point, I have no reason to believe that. 

I keep hearing that he doesn't play like this guy or that guy. Who does he play like because his stats don't measure up to any of them. 

Tua? Same coach, same system, HE had 340yds rushing. Bryce plays different huh?

He's not a dual threat QB. Tua plays more like Bryce than not and even he had more career rush yards in college.

You are limited in that department with Bryce he didn't do it in college and damn sure shouldn't in the bigger stronger faster NFL.

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2 minutes ago, BlackPanther22 said:

But again, you're comparing rushing stats for two players who do not play the QB position the same way. Kyler is a scrambler who uses his speed and running ability as a natural part of his game. 

Bryce scrambles too but he scrambles to pass not to run and he can run but it's not one of his main traits.  

That's all Bryce has, if they shut that down he's done for, can't run away, can't run over anybody.

He can easily be made one dimensional in the NFL and he doesn't have the legs or power to get yards like Kyler, or Levis or AR when the pass is shut down. Those guys can still get yards going north to south, not the Baker Mayfield sideline scramble that develops nothing.

He's a weak choice. Literally.

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2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

I keep hearing that he doesn't play like this guy or that guy. Who does he play like because his stats don't measure up to any of them. 

Tua? Same coach, same system, HE had 340yds rushing. Bryce plays different huh?

He's not a dual threat QB. Tua plays more like Bryce than not and even he had more career rush yards in college.

You are limited in that department with Bryce he didn't do it in college and damn sure shouldn't in the bigger stronger faster NFL.

He plays like Bryce Young man lmao. 

Clearly your Tua comparison is rooted in the fact that they both went to Bama which is fine but it's lazy because they ran two different offenses when each was at the school. BOB wasn't Tua's OC (Sark was) so therefore the offense was different and they played differently because of it. You keep talking about rushing yards too which again, Bryce isn't a dual threat so obviously his rushing stats aren't gonna be eye popping. 

There's plenty of tape of him scrambling to pick up yards if he has to which all good QB's do. 

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7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Leaving off crucial data to spread your fake narrative. Young has twice the passing yards and 30 plus more passing yards. All of this because it’s not the player you want? If he gets injured your boy Corral should be closer to playing.

Twice the passing yards of who exactly? 

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7 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

That's all Bryce has, if they shut that down he's done for, can't run away, can't run over anybody.

He can easily be made one dimensional in the NFL and he doesn't have the legs or power to get yards like Kyler, or Levis or AR when the pass is shut down. Those guys can still get yards going north to south, not the Baker Mayfield sideline scramble that develops nothing.

He's a weak choice. Literally.

Well based on the history of this franchise and our former #1 pick we don't need to be asking out QB to be running over anybody. We don't need to have a power back playing at QB, we just need somebody who can get themselves out of trouble when they need to. It's really not that hard lol. 

Not all these QB's play the position the same. And while AR and Levis can run what are they gonna do when that's taken away from them? They both aren't as advanced as passers as Bryce or CJ (though Levis isn't as far off as AR). You can poke holes in all of these guys. 

Bryce's size makes him an outlier, I acknowledge that but I just can't get with the idea that he's doomed as soon as he gets to the league. 

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2 minutes ago, BlackPanther22 said:

He plays like Bryce Young man lmao. 

Clearly your Tua comparison is rooted in the fact that they both went to Bama which is fine but it's lazy because they ran two different offenses when each was at the school. BOB wasn't Tua's OC (Sark was) so therefore the offense was different and they played differently because of it. You keep talking about rushing yards too which again, Bryce isn't a dual threat so obviously his rushing stats aren't gonna be eye popping. 

There's plenty of tape of him scrambling to pick up yards if he has to which all good QB's do. 

Why is he better than guys that can run when he doesn't put up better passing numbers than those same guys who can also run.

His passing numbers aren't historical. His completion percentage career isn't even better than Matt Corral.

We're paying too much for average everything, oh the tape though.

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2 minutes ago, BlackPanther22 said:

Well based on the history of this franchise and our former #1 pick we don't need to be asking out QB to be running over anybody. We don't need to have a power back playing at QB, we just need somebody who can get themselves out of trouble when they need to. It's really not that hard lol. 

Not all these QB's play the position the same. And while AR and Levis can run what are they gonna do when that's taken away from them? They both aren't as advanced as passers as Bryce or CJ (though Levis isn't as far off as AR). You can poke holes in all of these guys. 

Nobody has to worry about Bryce running, much easier game plan.

AR, Levis, Kyler, they're a problem.

Less is more though 2023.

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1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

Why is he better than guys that can run when he doesn't put up better passing numbers than those same guys who can also run.

His passing numbers aren't historical. His completion percentage career isn't even better than Matt Corral.

We're paying too much for average everything, oh the tape though.

....well yeah the tape matters lol

Without tape everything else is projection, which is part of the reason I'm iffy on AR at one. Like yeah he shows flashes on tape but it's a massive projection because the tape wasn't consistent. 

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....well yeah the tape matters lol

Without tape everything else is projection, which is part of the reason I'm iffy on AR at one. Like yeah he shows flashes on tape but it's a massive projection because the tape wasn't consistent. 

Stats are life bro. His numbers don't match all the hype.

Sorry, they don't. If you guys could change them for Brycee I'm sure you would. I see the love but he's just not all that. He's average everything.

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1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

Stats are life bro. His numbers don't match all the hype.

Sorry, they don't. If you guys could change them for Brycee I'm sure you would. I see the love but he's just not all that. He's average everything.

Stats are life? So what they actually do in the game doesn't matter? Ight man lmao. 

Who do you want them to pick? Because if it's AR or Levis then your stats argument goes out of the window. 

If you want Stroud then touché, because he's the only one with comparable stats.

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11 hours ago, Lame Duck said:

Young does not possess a single elite NFL trait but he does everything average and usually mistake free.  He will be a game manager in NFL.  He’ll do well behind great running attack and D but he won’t carry the team on his shoulders.

Processing and dissecting defenses is his elite skill. Probably the most important skill for QBs in the NFL.

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