Bears close to trading to 2, then to 9 with Carolina moving up to 2: Houston felt comfortable staying at 2 because they are confident Carolina doesn’t take their guy.

[Billy Love]

Young is the #1 pick.

[frankw]

8 minutes ago, poundaway said:

I hope we take Houston's guy.

I doubt they'll be terribly upset about "settling" for a QB with CJ Stroud's footwork accuracy and ball placement.

[MHS831]

Here is a way people misinterpret the variables--  False statement:  "Reich only likes tall QBs."  QBs average about 6-3, and his QBs were about that.  So you take an average commonality and claim that it is a prerequisite.   MOST QBs are as tall as Rivers, Foles, Ryan, Luck, and Wentz.

However, these QBs stand out more due to their intelligence--football IQ--than their height.   Luck and Wentz are two of the top 10 in terms of the Wonderlic.  Ryan and Rivers are no dummies.  Not sure about Foles, but he seems to understand a variety of playbooks pretty well.

Young has that in common with them.  I would put him in that category--would I put CJ in that category?  Probably not.  Richardson?  nope.  Levis?  Negative.

 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Here is a way people misinterpret the variables--  False statement:  "Reich only likes tall QBs."  QBs average about 6-3, and his QBs were about that.  So you take an average commonality and claim that it is a prerequisite.   MOST QBs are as tall as Rivers, Foles, Ryan, Luck, and Wentz.

However, these QBs stand out more due to their intelligence--football IQ--than their height.   Luck and Wentz are two of the top 10 in terms of the Wonderlic.  Ryan and Rivers are no dummies.  Not sure about Foles, but he seems to understand a variety of playbooks pretty well.

Young has that in common with them.  I would put him in that category--would I put CJ in that category?  Probably not.  Richardson?  nope.  Levis?  Negative.

 

What exactly are you basing this on?

I really would like to see this information that says Stroud and Richardson have rocks for brains.

Edited April 10, 2023 by frankw

[PleaseCutStewart]

13 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Young is -200 now

There is no coin flip. The move was always for Young. Stroud was a smokescreen

I haven't checked the lines since this morning, but I can buy it. I do think we either take Young #1 or trade him to Houston and they take him #1 (even though I would prefer Stroud)

[poundaway]

9 minutes ago, frankw said:

I doubt they'll be terribly upset about "settling" for a QB with CJ Stroud's footwork accuracy and ball placement.

Maybe. 

 

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, jayboogieman said:

The Texans might really want Richardson or Levis

Try again…

[Shocker]

The #1 pick is Young.  Panthers know it, Bears know it and Texans know it.  Texans prepared to pass on CJ at two and maybe come up from 20 for one of the other two.  

[jayboogieman]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Try again…

[Ocpanthertew714]

1 hour ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

When have the Texans ever made a smart move? 

Well they let their owner die

[CPF4LIFE]

Those betting odds are all depending where you look and who you take serious. Basically no different than the media folks.

[ForJimmy]

22 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Here is a way people misinterpret the variables--  False statement:  "Reich only likes tall QBs."  QBs average about 6-3, and his QBs were about that.  So you take an average commonality and claim that it is a prerequisite.   MOST QBs are as tall as Rivers, Foles, Ryan, Luck, and Wentz.

However, these QBs stand out more due to their intelligence--football IQ--than their height.   Luck and Wentz are two of the top 10 in terms of the Wonderlic.  Ryan and Rivers are no dummies.  Not sure about Foles, but he seems to understand a variety of playbooks pretty well.

Young has that in common with them.  I would put him in that category--would I put CJ in that category?  Probably not.  Richardson?  nope.  Levis?  Negative.

 

https://www.bleachernation.com/nfl/2023/02/25/one-test-hints-this-qb-class-is-exceptional-packers-coaches-skipping-the-combine-and-other-nfl-bullets/

• What’s more interesting is that Ally revealed a couple of crumbs of information about this year’s draft class. The NFL owns this information (when administered via the pre-draft process), so the scores are private. However, Ally said, “this year is by far and away the best we’ve ever had, score-wise, at the quarterback position.”

Edited April 10, 2023 by ForJimmy

[toldozer]

5 minutes ago, Shocker said:

The #1 pick is Young.  Panthers know it, Bears know it and Texans know it.  Texans prepared to pass on CJ at two and maybe come up from 20 for one of the other two.  

They have pick 12

[ForJimmy]

20 minutes ago, frankw said:

What exactly are you basing this on?

I really would like to see this information that says Stroud and Richardson have rocks for brains.

It’s already been stated that this class is “by far the best they seen from the QB class” regarding the S2 test so I’d say the top guys did pretty well.