Chris Mortensen: Bryce Young is the pick, they all love Bryce Young

[The Huddler]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That same argument can apply to any player.

What if we pass on Stroud and then find out the size argument on Young was valid?

i just made a true statement.  thats all. if young stays healthy and becomes an MVP we will feel stupid. 

 

 

[ForJimmy]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That same argument can apply to any player.

What if we pass on Stroud and then find out the size argument on Young was valid?

Yep. Also whoever gets picked at 2 has a disadvantage with the Texans drafting them IMO.

[frankw]

10 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

i just made a true statement.  thats all. if young stays healthy and becomes an MVP we will feel stupid. 

 

 

Has there ever been a 5'10 QB as an MVP? Looking now. Not seeing it. Shortest I'm seeing is 6'2 until I get to Fran Tankerton at 6 foot even back in 1975.

Edit: Actually Joe Theismann in 1983 was 6 foot as well. Still over 40 years ago.

Now Bryce could certainly become the lone outlier and the Steph Curry Michael Jordan or whichever fairy tale we can come up with to cling to. But the odds are extremely low. That's just reality. If we pick him though I will support and hope all this comes to fruition.

Edited April 5, 2023 by frankw

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Has there ever been a 5'10 QB as an MVP? Looking now. Not seeing it. Shortest I'm seeing is 6'2 until I get to Fran Tankerton at 6 foot even back in 1975.

Now Bryce could certainly become the lone outlier and the Steph Curry Michael Jordan or whichever fairy tale we can come up with to cling to. But the odds are extremely low. That's just reality. If we pick him though I will support and hope all this comes to fruition.

Did Brees never win it? I know he is still 6 even but just curious.

[Bear Hands]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Yep. Also whoever gets picked at 2 has a disadvantage with the Texans drafting them IMO.

Could also blow the lid off this draft if the Texans aren't goo-goo gaga over Stroud.  Ryans may want a *potential monster like Anderson.  

Then that could throw AZ into a tizzy without their expected man there.  Could trade down w/SEA for example.

And the Colts would still be screwed hehe.  

1-CAR Bryce Young

2-HOU Will Anderson

3-SEA (from AZ) CJ Stroud

Now THAT, that would be wild.  

[Wolfcop]

35 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Yeah no one knew what the Jags would do until mid-late April

Just looked it up. It started shifting on April 18. I wonder if the Jags would do it differently now. Just saw that Hutchinson had 9.5 sacks and 3 INTs! 

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Did Brees never win it? I know he is still 6 even but just curious.

He was in the voting before but didn't win. He was Super Bowl MVP however.

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

i just made a true statement.  thats all. if young stays healthy and becomes an MVP we will feel stupid. 

And if we take Young and he doesn't, we'll feel stupid, especially if Stroud becomes an MVP level player.

It's not any kind of argument. 

[The Huddler]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

And if we take Young and he doesn't, we'll feel stupid, especially if Stroud becomes an MVP level player.

It's not any kind of argument. 

agreed im just saying

[The Huddler]

we gunna go from one of the biggest freak QBs in Cam to one of the smallest ever.  thats just how the pendulum swings in the coincidental story of life

 

 

that said, id be stoked with stroud too. im pretty much 50/50

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Could also blow the lid off this draft if the Texans aren't goo-goo gaga over Stroud.  Ryans may want a *potential monster like Anderson.  

Then that could throw AZ into a tizzy without their expected man there.  Could trade down w/SEA for example.

And the Colts would still be screwed hehe.  

1-CAR Bryce Young

2-HOU Will Anderson

3-SEA (from AZ) CJ Stroud

Now THAT, that would be wild.  

I enjoy "wild" drafts, but generally only if we're not part of the "wildness"

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

All nothing but opinions and hearsay with no proof of anything yet. The only way we will find out is on draft day.

[Ivory Panther]

2 hours ago, backINblack28 said:

I would support whoever they pick. I just find the timing strange if this is the case.  We were reportedly the most aggressive team at the combine, after which we made the trade.  That's when CJ Stroud was showcasing and when Bryce wasn't even throwing.  Not trying to say anything positive or negative about either guy, just the timing to me doesn't really match up with them saying 'let's go get Bryce' after we sat at the combine and were so impressed with something there that we wanted to trade--all while Bryce isn't doing anything

According to several reports (including Joe Person of the athletic), the deal started to be discussed Monday & continued throughout the week.CJ worked out on Saturday...

I understand the logic of, they traded because they saw CJ workout, but it doesn't appear to be the case since the intent to trade started at least 5 days before he even worked out. 

On top of it, Fitt & Reich both said the tape was more important than the workouts.

So I doubt that the workout was the reason for the trade, although without the insight from Joe Person of the athletic, it would be logical to think so.

 

[Ivory Panther]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

People keep saying he's Mahomes-lite but there's a BIG difference in the arm strength.

I agree, Mahomes arm strength was actually 1 of the first things ppl raved about before even the play making ability.

aside from size (which is not a big deal to me), Bryce's arm strength is his biggest concern.

It's not bad (better than Tua IMO), but he definitely has many balls dying down toward the end on long passes. or they look a bit wobbly...

Do you think arm strength can drastically improve with more weight & muscles?