JT O'Sullivan's QB Rankings for 2023

[jayboogieman]

39 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hell, Marty Hurney was a professional.

And proof that even professionals aren't always smarter than fans.

[stan786]

2 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

JSN was out with a hamstring this year.  He had 5 total catches for the season.

Egbuka probably would be neck and neck with JSN if he could come out this year. Brian Hartline is incredible.

[The Lobo]

JT is awesome 

[TheWiz]

Bryce Young is not Steph Curry. Steph Curry is 6'2. 

 

[Mr. Scot]

50 minutes ago, kass said:

I'm just messing with you.

I get it

[rayzor]

18 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

And proof that even professionals aren't always smarter than fans.

how long did it take us to figure out that Rhule wasn't going to work out?

how many of us thought that Clausen was a bad idea?

[Ricky Spanish]

36 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

JSN was out with a hamstring this year.  He had 5 total catches for the season.

You are correct, I was mixing him up with Egbuka, who is also better than any receiver currently on Bama at the moment, and also not entering the draft. 

[Pup McBarky]

3 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

likes Young more for his ability to read the field and make high anticipatory throws more often than Stroud does. 

What does he mean by "high anticipatory throws?" Does that mean Young places the ball at a spot where his receiver will be 3 strides from then? 5 strides? Is he proficient at this because he literally doesn't have the arm strength to zip it into a tight window? That's my concern. Smart players learn to compensate for deficiencies. If he can't zip a throw into a tight window, he won't do well in the NFL. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

27 minutes ago, rayzor said:

how long did it take us to figure out that Rhule wasn't going to work out?

how many of us thought that Clausen was a bad idea?

Pretty much knew it once he moved Chinn to safety. You don't take a DROY finalist (should be winner) and move him away from doing the things that made him so damn effective. 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

... Because Stroud was still throwing to better receivers? This past season he was throwing to Marvin Harrison Jr, the guy who would be the consensus #1 receiver if he were eligible this year and JSN, a first round player coming out this season. Last year he had Olave and Wilson, both first round receivers. Young had Williams last season and not much this year.

Young was carrying his team this year, whereas OSU was just a better all around team. Yes Young's numbers took a hit in terms of volume stats, but his y/a, ay/a, and QB rating are pretty much identical. He was just as efficient with a worse team surrounding him.

You can be a fan of Stroud over Young, but even the staunchest of Stroud supporters even admit Stroud had a better supporting cast. The argument that Young's receivers made him just seems completely disingenuous based on everything. 

Didn't Stroud lose his WR's due to injuries and lost against GA but he still managed to stay in the game staying competitive.

Edited April 5, 2023 by PantherOnTheProwl1523

[Ricky Spanish]

2 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

What does he mean by "high anticipatory throws?" Does that mean Young places the ball at a spot where his receiver will be 3 strides from then? 5 strides? Is he proficient at this because he literally doesn't have the arm strength to zip it into a tight window? That's my concern. Smart players learn to compensate for deficiencies. If he can't zip a throw into a tight window, he won't do well in the NFL. 

It means he throws guys open. It means that he is in such control of the offense, he throws the ball to a spot and expects a guy to be there even before he breaks his route. He does it a ton on film, it has nothing to do with compensation for height or arm strength. He reads defenses well enough to know where to place a ball on a look before a receiver can get there. It's the kind of Crap Manning and Brees did all the time in the pros.

JT talks about "Uppercase 'A' and lowercase 'a' Anticipation throws" in a lot of his videos. He has high praise for guys who start their throwing motion right when a guy breaks, and even  higher praise when he starts his motion before the receiver even makes a move. Young has more "Uppercase 'A'" throws than Stroud does from JT's perspective. 

[Ricky Spanish]

4 minutes ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

Didn't Stroud lose his WR's due to injuries and he still pulled off a win in GA game even with the lack of his targets. 

MHJ got knocked unconscious in the final minute of the 3rd quarter. OSU didn't score another TD the rest of the game, but CJ marched them down the field twice for two FG attempts. Kicker missed the final that would have won the game, Georgia won.

CJ did is best to put the team in a chance to win, kicker blew it. 

[Soul Rebel]

1 hour ago, stan786 said:

Got any other previous years? Last years class was so brutal hahaha.

Agreed. 2021 wasn't so hot for him either.....

1. Tua

2. Burrow

3. Jake Fromm 

4. Jordan Love

5. Nate Stanley

6. Anthony Gordon

7. Jalen Hurts

8. Justin Herbert

 

 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

1 minute ago, Ricky Spanish said:

MHJ got knocked unconscious in the final minute of the 3rd quarter. OSU didn't score another TD the rest of the game, but CJ marched them down the field twice for two FG attempts. Kicker missed the final that would have won the game, Georgia won.

CJ did is best to put the team in a chance to win, kicker blew it. 

I made an error and reworded my post. CJ also played good without key pieces and almost sealed the game but didn't. He did a very good job trying to keep it alive till the end.

"Didn't Stroud lose his WR's due to injuries and lost against GA but he still managed to stay in the game staying competitive."