Athletic article on top prospects

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, XClown1986 said:

Gravitating to him is fine. But he has to communicate. With his coaches and with his teammates especially. He can't leave the coaches to talk to his guys and he just "plays the game." So I would want to know more about how effective he is as a communicator and how he has managed those relationships.

This is why Bryce Young is being regarded as the top guy, because there is so much evidence to support his strengths as a leader and communicator. You see it all the time and you hear it from everyone he talks to. When it is barely mentioned about Stroud, that scares me.

He can't be a QB in a vacuum. He has to be a leader of men. Period. It can seem forced, disingenuous, half-assed, or a requirement. He has to WANT to lead these guys. If his team goes 3 and out, down by 14 in the waning minutes of the 3rd quarter, I want to know that he is going to pull his receivers to the side and address the issue. Schematics, problem solving, or just an ass chewing, he will have to do what is required and necessary for those moments. Same goes for him talking to his O-line and backs. He better talk to them. Every time he sees/feels something, his guys should know. And as a coach, I want to know I won't have to constantly tell him to do that, that he will do so when necessary. I am not coaching a guy to be a leader. I am coaching a guy to be a better player. You either have it or you don't. It comes down to personality. 

Rest your head brother

 

 

https://www.timesleader.com/sports/1593084/qb-c-j-stroud-is-still-defining-his-legacy-at-ohio-state

Harrison said he admires Stroud’s skills and leadership and that he’s “never seen anything like it.”

“We all look to C.J. when things are going good and bad,” Harrison said. “He always rallies us together, whether that’s halftime, we’re down or before the game. He’s always talking to us, making sure that we kind of have the right mindset going into everything.”

Stroud has participated in community events around Ohio State and Columbus that extend his influence beyond the field. On and off the gridiron, Stroud said he is proud of what he’s accomplished.

[Pup McBarky]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's the kind of thing that I expect them to get into with their visits.

Yeah, our resident Green Beret should have some input on this after he sits down with the prospects.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Pup McBarky said:

Yeah, our resident Green Beret should have some input on this after he sits down with the prospects.

Definitely 

[XClown1986]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Rest your head brother

 

 

https://www.timesleader.com/sports/1593084/qb-c-j-stroud-is-still-defining-his-legacy-at-ohio-state

Harrison said he admires Stroud’s skills and leadership and that he’s “never seen anything like it.”

“We all look to C.J. when things are going good and bad,” Harrison said. “He always rallies us together, whether that’s halftime, we’re down or before the game. He’s always talking to us, making sure that we kind of have the right mindset going into everything.”

Stroud has participated in community events around Ohio State and Columbus that extend his influence beyond the field. On and off the gridiron, Stroud said he is proud of what he’s accomplished.

This is great to hear. I remember one of the things that sold our coaches on Cam was the passionate halftime speech he gave to his team when they were getting their ass kicked by Alabama, then they came out afterwards, rallied, and won. It is such an important aspect of a QB. Pivotal, in fact.

[Mr. Scot]

I did a quick search of "CJ Stroud leadership" and found this chronicling some answers he gave at last year's Big Ten media day.

“If you ask me what a quarterback is, I definitely think I would definitely say a leader. I think on and off the field, I think off the field is probably more important, you build trust. I think leadership is all about trust, if I have trust in my guys they’ll do anything for me and I’ll do anything fro them so I do invite a lot of my teammates over, either side of the ball, even if you’re a specialist I don’t care, lineman. I’ll either cook something or order something and we just eat, have a good time, talk, play the game, do whatever, just have fun and be boys. So I definitely think it’s important to build that trust off the field so on the field we just ride for each other,” Stroud said.

Stroud added that he’s established himself as a vocal leader of the team, and believes that accountability is a two way street.

“Honestly I think I do everything, I’m very vocal, sometimes I think I’m too vocal, I try to keep it real just because I feel like those who keep it real with you in your life are the ones that do care. I try to call my guys out but I often tell them to call me out if I’m doing something wrong just because I like constructive criticism as well,” Stroud said.

Stroud is a jack of all trades when it comes to leadership, being not only a vocal one, but one that can lead by example and relate to everyone on his team.

“Lead by example type as well, first one in last one out, watch a lot of film, and I could probably tell the defense what the offense is going to do just off of film, I do watch a lot,” Stroud said. “It’s other things I have in my leadership ability and I think probably the most important one is being able to relate, I can relate to everybody on the team from different cultures to different backgrounds, you name it and I can relate to them in some type of way or I can understand where they come from and put myself in their shoes.”

Link

[shaqattaq]

47 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is where I'm at...

The top selling points for each of the big four, i.e. if you had to pick one thing, what are they best known for:

Stroud - Accuracy

Young - Intelligence

Richardson - Athleticism

Levis - Arm Strength

Given those terms, I'm gonna compare the first two, and note that in most cases what one has, the other has also (accuracy, intelligence, processing, etc).

The most obvious thing one has which the other doesn't? Prototype size.

So the pick for me is Stroud.

There's a lot of discussion in that blurb about Stroud being football smart and reading the defense. He may not be as intelligent as Young, but it's not like he's a dumbass. Add that to his size and accuracy and it's a no brainer IMO.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, shaqattaq said:

There's a lot of discussion in that blurb about Stroud being football smart and reading the defense. He may not be as intelligent as Young, but it's not like he's a dumbass. Add that to his size and accuracy and it's a no brainer IMO.

The way people talk about Young it sounds like he's damn near a savant.

If not for that frame...

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The way people talk about Young it sounds like he's damn near a savant.

If not for that frame...

I bet he will make one hell of a coach one day.

[Mr. Scot]

Our buddy John's analysis...

For the record though, John wasn't a big fan of the comment that Stroud could wind up being better than Lawrence.

 

[mrcompletely11]

I think the comparison to TL was more to Strouds passing then overall game

[Mr. Scot]

56 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think the comparison to TL was more to Strouds passing then overall game

I kinda got the impression it was only a partial comparison too.

[TheSpecialJuan]

4 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

That just answered every question I had about Stroud that you can’t see from just watching his games.

Annnnnnd just like that my preference has now shifted back to Stroud

Give it a week 

[OldhamA]

7 hours ago, Jaxel said:

Tough decision. I am still a bit on the riskier side and would take Young, but again, I would be very excited about Stroud as well.

Is it when you've got two SEC DCs saying "I'd take Stroud / he doesn't handle NFL level athletes well"?

[Jackie Lee]

Nice little behind the scenes vid of CJ interacting with his peers. Even coaching up some young Qb's at his old high school. He definitely carries himself like a "leader", very nonchalant and natural. I'll take that over the phony Russell Wilson type