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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

It's just connecting the dots between the players we've acquired and what has been said by our new staff about our defensive scheme.

No one is saying he WILL be traded. People have just said it could happen because we've made moves that have made him expendable (signing Von Bell), Fitts has already told us you can't re-sign everyone, Fitts is a wheeler and dealer, and on the surface Chinn doesn't really fit in great into this defensive scheme given the little that we know about it.

It's the offseason, what else is their to talk about? Shall we argue some more about QBs?

My dad can beat up your dad.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

It's just connecting the dots between the players we've acquired and what has been said by our new staff about our defensive scheme.

No one is saying he WILL be traded. People have just said it could happen because we've made moves that have made him expendable (signing Von Bell), Fitts has already told us you can't re-sign everyone, Fitts is a wheeler and dealer, and on the surface Chinn doesn't really fit in great into this defensive scheme given the little that we know about it.

It's the offseason, what else is their to talk about? Shall we argue some more about QBs?

I wonder what his value is?  2nd?

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kaye noticed the same thing I did...

 

We're all over CBs because of injuries. The same is probably true with the OGs. Sometimes the best ability is availability.

Speculating a little deeper... if you're gonna have a short QB, you better have a STRONG interior OL. Pressure up the middle is a killer for short QBs. They can't see over it.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

We're all over CBs because of injuries. The same is probably true with the OGs. Sometimes the best ability is availability.

Someone asked him about Christensen. He stated that he believes he'll stick around for his versatility as a backup but acknowledges it's possible the Panthers could draft someone to start over him.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Someone asked him about Christensen. He stated that he believes he'll stick around for his versatility as a backup but acknowledges it's possible the Panthers could draft someone to start over him.

With BC's versatility, he'd still be a very valuable all purpose backup along the OL. 

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