Has Fitterer ever talked about CJ?

[ForJimmy]

7 hours ago, Ivory Panther said:

U r playing dumb…i can’t help u. 

When I use your quotes and you think it’s dumb….  

[Daddy_Uncle]

I'm ready for the draft to be over. I can't deal with some of you. 

[frankw]

6 hours ago, top dawg said:

To be clear I like both as individuals and their intangibles. I think both could have success with this staff. It's the extreme arguments in favor of one over the other that are making any rational discourse near impossible. For all the talk of pro Stroud fans I feel they are mostly reasonable and realistic aside from a few. The same cannot be said for the Bryce fans it's basically the opposite. There are a few reasonable folks but then many many more who want to knock CJ and ignore the fairly blatant flags with Young and his playing weight while comparing him to Michael Jordan Steph Curry Bruce Lee and whoever will be next on the list. Again. I'll accept either. But I think if we go BY Stroud will have a really good or great career with whichever team selects him and they will always be connected.

[therealmjl]

9 hours ago, Shocker said:

Young is the best QB folks

It’s true

Young is the best QB folks

Edited March 24, 2023 by therealmjl

[MHS831]

10 hours ago, Ivory Panther said:

This was well said. It’s a tough decision for certain.

for me, QB is primarily mental. When I see who I consider top QBs of all time or even currently, what set them aside, is the mental aspect of the game. 
They are usually not the fastest, the strongest, the tallest. The come in all shape & size but the common denominator is always mental processing & ability to rise to the moment most of the time. 
i think bryce has that! 

When I look at the smaller QBs in the NFL, I am not seeing a history of injuries that exceeds the larger QBs--the large QBs, the running QBs, etc.  get hurt too.  But Young is pretty slender for 5-10, so I dunno.  Can he protect himself in the pocket?  Yes, for the most part.  Can we protect him?  Yes.  If we have an offense that gets rid of the ball quickly, which is what Reich tries to do, then his size is not as important as we are making it out to be--yes, he could get hurt, but so could Stroud.  There is risk with either QB.

[Call Me James]

9 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Fitts has never gotten to pick his QB. He always had to go get the reclamation project Rhule wanted. The only QB he did pick Rhule never even tried to develop. 

Then why would we care now? I doubt he has anymore say today than he did then. 

[ForJimmy]

21 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

When I look at the smaller QBs in the NFL, I am not seeing a history of injuries that exceeds the larger QBs--the large QBs, the running QBs, etc.  get hurt too.  But Young is pretty slender for 5-10, so I dunno.  Can he protect himself in the pocket?  Yes, for the most part.  Can we protect him?  Yes.  If we have an offense that gets rid of the ball quickly, which is what Reich tries to do, then his size is not as important as we are making it out to be--yes, he could get hurt, but so could Stroud.  There is risk with either QB.

The only issue I see with that is the whole offense that gets the ball out fast comment. It’s true that how smaller QBs like Brees protect themselves, but that takes away one of Young’s best attributes in his ability to extend plays. Stroud actually fits that style of offense better, but a QB with Young’s size should be playing that style in the NFL. It’s a back and forth conversation because it’s a strong argument for both players.

[top dawg]

11 minutes ago, frankw said:

To be clear I like both as individuals and their intangibles. I think both could have success with this staff. It's the extreme arguments in favor of one over the other that are making any rational discourse near impossible. For all the talk of pro Stroud fans I feel they are mostly reasonable and realistic aside from a few. The same cannot be said for the Bryce fans it's basically the opposite. There are a few reasonable folks but then many many more who want to knock CJ and ignore the fairly blatant flags with Young and his playing weight while comparing him to Michael Jordan Steph Curry Bruce Lee and whoever will be next on the list. Again. I'll accept either. But I think if we go BY Stroud will have a really good or great career with whichever team selects him and they will always be connected.

Nah, dude. It's the opposite. Stroud lovers seem to simply want to gulp down the Young Haterade with impunity. But I just simply call people on their bullsh¡t. Young's red flag, if you want to call it that, is his size, pure and simple. That's pretty much it. He has been the better QB thus far, and I don't even think that's even provocative. If he were 3½ inches taller and 25 pounds heavier, there wouldn't even be a real discussion because he would be the consensus top pick. 

You keep saying that people are knocking Stroud. Where are all these knocks on Stroud? People generally like Stroud. His Georgia game was excellent. He followed it up (albeit in underwear) looking as smooth a thrower as you'll ever want to see at the Combine--while Young observed--and his pro day. Just because people may mention that he had better receivers last season, or that he hasn't proven to be nearly as efficient when pressured, or that he is not as great off-script as Young doesn't mean that he won't end up being a better fit for us, or QB overall. Only their pro careers will determine that.

People are nitpicking--err, really picking Young's poor little bones ad nauseam based on injury projections, notwithstanding that he's been about as healthy as they come throughout his career. 

You say you'll be happy with either, but it seems like a good amount of your posts are based on low-key dogging out Young supporters for overlooking his size and being in Stroud's "amen" corner simply because of his size (meaning, that he's not a Smurf like people seem to think Young is).

 

 

 

[Ivory Panther]

29 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Nah, dude. It's the opposite. Stroud lovers seem to simply want to gulp down the Young Haterade with impunity. But I just simply call people on their bullsh¡t. Young's red flag, if you want to call it that, is his size, pure and simple. That's pretty much it. He has been the better QB thus far, and I don't even think that's even provocative. If he were 3½ inches taller and 25 pounds heavier, there wouldn't even be a real discussion because he would be the consensus top pick. 

You keep saying that people are knocking Stroud. Where are all these knocks on Stroud? People generally like Stroud. His Georgia game was excellent. He followed it up (albeit in underwear) looking as smooth a thrower as you'll ever want to see at the Combine--while Young observed--and his pro day. Just because people may mention that he had better receivers last season, or that he hasn't proven to be nearly as efficient when pressured, or that he is not as great off-script as Young doesn't mean that he won't end up being a better fit for us, or QB overall. Only their pro careers will determine that.

People are nitpicking--err, really picking Young's poor little bones ad nauseam based on injury projections, notwithstanding that he's been about as healthy as they come throughout his career. 

You say you'll be happy with either, but it seems like a good amount of your posts are based on low-key dogging out Young supporters for overlooking his size and being in Stroud's "amen" corner simply because of his size (meaning, that he's not a Smurf like people seem to think Young is).

 

 

 

Perfectly said!!!

[frankw]

34 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Nah, dude. It's the opposite. Stroud lovers seem to simply want to gulp down the Young Haterade with impunity. But I just simply call people on their bullsh¡t. Young's red flag, if you want to call it that, is his size, pure and simple. That's pretty much it. He has been the better QB thus far, and I don't even think that's even provocative. If he were 3½ inches taller and 25 pounds heavier, there wouldn't even be a real discussion because he would be the consensus top pick. 

You keep saying that people are knocking Stroud. Where are all these knocks on Stroud? People generally like Stroud. His Georgia game was excellent. He followed it up (albeit in underwear) looking as smooth a thrower as you'll ever want to see at the Combine--while Young observed--and his pro day. Just because people may mention that he had better receivers last season, or that he hasn't proven to be nearly as efficient when pressured, or that he is not as great off-script as Young doesn't mean that he won't end up being a better fit for us, or QB overall. Only their pro careers will determine that.

People are nitpicking--err, really picking Young's poor little bones ad nauseam based on injury projections, notwithstanding that he's been about as healthy as they come throughout his career. 

You say you'll be happy with either, but it seems like a good amount of your posts are based on low-key dogging out Young supporters for overlooking his size and being in Stroud's "amen" corner simply because of his size (meaning, that he's not a Smurf like people seem to think Young is).

 

 

 

Well sounds like you're definitely firmly a believer. That's cool man. The major concern I have is Young's true playing weight. It clearly isn't 204. 190ish at best sounds likely and skipping the weigh in at his own pro day with all the questions about his frame is just weaksauce for a guy who could be the future first overall pick. And I'm just saying but when cringy folks like Ivory Panther who question how cerebral Stroud is are in your corner it's not cute. Check the people around you. Anywho enjoy the draft big guy!

Edited March 24, 2023 by frankw

[OldhamA]

9 hours ago, jfra78 said:

I like Stroud and I'm 5'10" ¼ just like Bryce

You're actually taller than Young.

[OldhamA]

10 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I think most agree that he is better. The problem is how long will his body frame last in the NFL?

 

Tua is bigger than him and you see how they toss him around. If someone gets a good hit on Bryce it could be scary.

I think most agree he's a better College QB, right?

It's about projection - how much growth does he have left? Is he maxed out now?

It's why someone like Richardson is so intriguing - he has a lot of room to grow as a prospect. 

[Ivory Panther]

14 minutes ago, frankw said:

Well sounds like you're definitely firmly a believer. That's cool man. The major concern I have is Young's true playing weight. It clearly isn't 204. 190ish at best sounds likely and skipping the weigh in at his own pro day with all the questions about his frame is just weaksauce for a guy who could be the future first overall pick. And I'm just saying but when cringy folks like Ivory Panther who question how cerebral Stroud is are in your corner it's not cute. Check the people around you. Anywho enjoy the draft big guy!

 Bro, u r obsessed with me. I’m starting to be concerned with ur emotional & mental health. 
This is just a blog for fans to give their opinions. It’s not that serious. Not question CJ’s mental prowess. I think he is smart & can read defenses. He definitely not ur typical one read QB from OSU we have seen in the past. I’ve said that many times.

but I think Bryce is on another level in that department & that’s ok too. 
 

I even gave the example of CJ accuracy vs Bryce. When ppl say CJ is accurate, it doesn’t mean Bryce is not, it just mean CJ accuracy is on another level.

like really bro, relax! U r following me on every post. U even bring me up on other ppl post. That’s terribly unhealthy. Like damn! Lolll

[WhoKnows]

11 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

“GMs pick players & coaches coach them. That’s the way it is in most organizations from NFL, to NBA etc”

According to you

If Fitterer agrees with you, he’s a great GM and Rhule made him do everything bad although that also means you cannot trust him because he’s never made a real GM decision. If Fitterer doesn’t agree, he forced Darnold on everyone and convinced Rhule it was the right call and compensation.