Bryce Young Pro Day

[frankw]

5 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Exactly, has anyone actually made comparisons statistically?   Most injuries seem to be flukes.  Is it actually statistically more likely for a lighter qb to get injured more often than a heavier one?

Cam Newton has the most rushing attempts for his position in NFL history. The guy is still running around and throwing passes at Auburn's pro day. He isn't a paraplegic or some poo. If he had Young's frame he wouldn't have lasted half of one season.

[Mother Grabber]

this really comes down to if your an ass man or a tittie man. can’t be mad with either.

[Mother Grabber]

Brees was 6’0” 210ish. Wilson 5’11” 215ish. Young can get close to that. his size shouldn’t be a big issue.

stroud is a machine of consistency and accuracy. young is an amazing play maker. 

these are good problems to have, much better than choosing between Teddy and Minshew.

[tukafan21]

39 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

Brees was 6’0” 210ish. Wilson 5’11” 215ish. Young can get close to that. his size shouldn’t be a big issue.

stroud is a machine of consistency and accuracy. young is an amazing play maker. 

these are good problems to have, much better than choosing between Teddy and Minshew.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how you can compare these two size wise, Russ is much more built to last in the NFL than Young is, by miles.

Wilson at the Combine

Bryce Young at his Pro Day

 

[Sub Zero]

Both look good against air.. We are very lucky that we have our choice of these 2 guys..

[tukafan21]

7 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

The best QB of all time has a dad body.

 

Turn on the film can this guy play QB at an elite level or not?

 

You want a big ripped tall body go draft AR or Levis. If you want a guy who can play QB the right way draft Bryce or Stroud.

At 5'10" it makes a hell of a lot more difference than when you're 6'4" if you're built well or if you have a thin frame.

Significant difference

Plus, that "dad bod" is also one of the best ever in terms of keeping his body in top shape.  

It's not about how you look, it's about if you have the build to withstand the hits at the NFL level, and not on a game to game or even season to season basis, but for the length of a career you want your #1 pick to have.

Edited March 24, 2023 by tukafan21

[TheMostInterestingMan]

5 hours ago, t96 said:

Good luck with that

Thanks? It doesn’t really having anything to do with me. Just a pretty unanimously held opinion within the football community lol

[Dragoon11]

13 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

What's them winning lottery ticket numbers Mrs Cleo? Your "fact" is an opinion and nothing more. Nobody knows if Young or anyone with "ideal size" will be able to stay healthy or not in the NFL after getting drafted. The league protects QBs more and more every year. They're not quite NBA bad with the you can't touch the star fouls yet, but they're getting there. What is fact is that Young played in the toughest college league for three years and missed one game while taking hits from NFL sized players. He's shown he's tough and can take a hit or avoid contact with his small size. The size thing is way overblown on here.

Look no further than us to prove that point. How long did Cam stay healthy? And he was about as big, fast and strong of a specimen you will EVER find for an NFL QB. 6'5" and 250lbs... yes, yes, I know, the way he was used, I get it. TJ Watt hit him while he was in the pocket, obviously prior/nagging injury, but that happens to every QB.

Point being, I'm pretty sure the Panthers will not use Young (if drafted) the same way Cam was used. That's the problem with bigger QB's. If they're not a pure pocket passer or it just doesn't work out that way, then they will be utilized to use that size and speed outside the pocket, which increases injury risk. Honestly the chances are pretty much the same IMO. Could Young be like Tua and more prone to concussion? It's possible, it's also just as likely for ANY QB. 

Luck will always be a factor with injuries in a contact sport, especially the NFL. I just think you do not look at one of the most prolific passers in SEC history and say... nahhh, can't take a chance, he's too small. If it doesn't work out, there's always another draft year. No guarantees no matter who we pick. We still don't know if Corral is a bust or not.

[Mother Grabber]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how you can compare these two size wise, Russ is much more built to last in the NFL than Young is, by miles.

Wilson at the Combine

Bryce Young at his Pro Day

 

you conveniently ignored the Drew Brees part. he was never thick with muscle, neither were brady or manning.

 

[Dragoon11]

11 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I like Young's shoes better.

Damn, in that picture Stroud does not look much bigger than Young standing next to Reich.

[csx]

14 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

you conveniently ignored the Drew Brees part. he was never thick with muscle, neither were brady or manning.

 

Probably why he was a second round pick

[Mother Grabber]

7 minutes ago, csx said:

Probably why he was a second round pick

he had a somewhat decent career, iirc

[tukafan21]

35 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

you conveniently ignored the Drew Brees part. he was never thick with muscle, neither were brady or manning.

 

Might be hard to tell under all that baggy clothing, but he came in at 6' and 213 lbs at the combine, which likely was his playing weight at the time and I think we all agree, Young isn't playing at his combine weight and is 2" shorter on top of the 9 lbs difference there and likely 20ish lbs actual difference.

That's why I go back to the frame, he's just small and I don't like banking our future on him being one of the 4 or 5 successful sub 6 foot QB's in NFL history, when he's both the shortest and also the smallest framed/weighted of all of them as well.

Essentially if Young kept getting a little thicker over the years like they did, he might reach the weight those guys were at coming into the league, that's not insignificant.

Edited March 24, 2023 by tukafan21

[Dragoon11]

8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Look at Smitty's overall build compared to Young's. Good grief. Dude is small.

Well good grief... do you think Smitty MAYBE has put on a few pounds since retiring??