Panthers are taking Stroud, and Houston knows it

[kungfoodude]

42 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I doubt anyone outside of the organization truly knows. Hell, some within the organization probably don't know. But everything Fitts said about needing to be completely sold on a guy yada, yada, yada before trading up to #1 because you're essentially betting the house on the guy leads me to believe they likely knew who they were going to go get.

I think they knew that at least one of them was worth it, if not more.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

No one "knows" anything, most likely.

I'd wager a hefty sum that the organization hasn't decided on "The Guy" yet.

And here I had someone try and tell me that if they didn't have one guy picked right now, they needed to be fired

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I think they knew that at least one of them was worth it, if not more.

Yep.

I don't really get this notion people have that the Panthers have to have already made their decision before going out to all the pro days, having the interviews, etc.

Seriously, what's wrong with being happy with more than one prospect?

Hell, I'd call that a damn good position to be in.

[The Lobo]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yep.

I don't really get this notion people have that the Panthers have to have already made their decision before going out to all the pro days, having the interviews, etc.

Seriously, what's wrong with being happy with more than one prospect?

Hell, I'd call that a damn good position to be in.

This. And that is exactly why they traded up to one. Take their time and pick the right one. 

[MVPccaffrey]

Agreed, not passing on Stroud's size and pocket presence for a QB shorter than most running backs

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, MVPccaffrey said:

Agreed, not passing on Stroud's size and pocket presence for a QB shorter and smaller than most kickers

fify

[bobcat91]

Size, Accuracy, Leadership, Attitude and a proven winner. They have met with him for a long time both last night and before the combine. He is our franchise QB

[TheBigKat]

we are not taking a 160lb midget for a QB...

[panfanman]

Maybe they feel they've seen everything they need to see from Stroud and are only going to Young's to see if he can change their minds.

[TF330]

very strange the representation that the texans sent. that's more telling than anything the panthers did IMO

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, TF330 said:

very strange the representation that the texans sent. that's more telling than anything the panthers did IMO

They are lead by one that follows the patriot way. 

thats another reason why i dont think texans will offer to trade up to 1, they know a bluff. 

[CPantherKing]

This tells me that Houston knows they are getting Bryce Young at #1.

Carolina agrees to trade the #1 pick to the Texans as long as the Texans do what they want. They have agreed to compensation and that the Texans will not pursue Stroud.

Now, the Panthers set their targets on convincing the Colts to trade up for Stroud. So, an army shows up for the Panthers and no one shows up for the Texans. What does this tell the Colts? It tells them that they are not getting Young and if they want Stroud, they need to agree to a deal with the Panthers.

I expect the Colts and Texans to not be showing up at all to Levis and Richardson pro days.

The Panthers meant it when they said they wanted to control the draft, and they are doing it one pro day at a time.

I expect the Panthers to get the #2, #12, #33, and 2024 2nd round pick from the Texans in exchange for Young.

Before Levis' pro day, I expect the Panthers to have an agreement made with the Colts for the #4, #35, TE Jelani Woods, and 2024 1st round pick from the Colts in exchange for position for Stroud. Also, the Colts will agree to not show up to the pro days for Levis and Richardson.

At this point, the Panthers line up the Seahawks, Lions, and Raiders for the position to get their QB. One of them will give up picks to jump to the #4 spot for their pick of QB. I believe it will be the Lions wanting to jump the Seahawks for Richardson. Lions give up their #6, #18, 2024 2nd round pick, and 2024 5th round pick.

The Panthers arrange a deal with Raiders to move up to 6 and take Will Levis contingent on the Seahawks passing on Levis. Raiders give up #7, #38, 2024 1st round and 2024 4th round.

Panthers trade #18 and a 2024 1st round pick for Lamar Jackson.

Panthers turn #9, #61, 2024 1st round, 2025 2nd round, and DJ Moore into...

Panthers have #7, #12, #33, #35, #38, #39, QB Lamar Jackson, TE Jelani Woods, 2024 1st round pick, 2x 2024 2nd round pick, 2024 4th round pick, and 2024 5th round pick.

Panthers draft DT/DE Jalen Carter, WR Quentin Johnston, EDGE Nolan Smith, NT/DT Siaki Ika, NT/DT Mazi Smith, RB Israel Abanikanda, TE Zach Kuntz, RB Chase Brown, WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton, and DB Cory Trice Jr with their 10 draft picks.

QB-Lamar Jackson/Andy Dalton

RB-Miles Sanders/Israel Abanikanda/Chase Brown

TE-Hayden Hurst/Jelani Woods/Zach Kuntz/Tommy Tremble

WR-Quentin Johnston/Adam Thielen/(DJ Chark)/Terrace Marshall Jr/Bryce Ford-Wheaton/Laviska Shenault

OL-Bradley Bozeman/Taylor Moton/Austin Corbett/Ikem Ekwonu/Brady Christensen

DL-Derrick Brown/Siaki Ika/Mazi Smith/Jalen Carter

EDGE-Brian Burns/Nolan Smith

ILB-Jeremy Chinn/Shaq Thompson/Frankie Luvu

CB-Jaycee Horn/CJ Henderson/Cory Trice Jr/Donte Jackson

S-Vonn Bell/Xavier Woods

 

Not exactly what I would want, believe are the best players in the draft, or believe will be the best in the NFL. This is what I believe Reich/Fitterer/Tepper will want to achieve going in to the 2023 season. Let's see it play out. Tepper is going to take the entire NFL for a wild ride in the draft just like he has with this coaching staff. It doesn't stop with trading up for the #1 pick and simply drafting a QB.

Edited March 23, 2023 by CPantherKing

[csx]

1 minute ago, CPantherKing said:

This tells me that Houston knows they are getting Bryce Young at #1.

Carolina agrees to trade the #1 pick to the Texans as long as the Texans do what they want. They have agreed to compensation and that the Texans will not pursue Stroud.

Now, the Panthers set their targets on convincing the Colts to trade up for Stroud. So, an army shows up for the Panthers and no one shows up for the Texans. What does this tell the Colts? It tells them that they are not getting Young and if they want Stroud, they need to agree to a deal with the Panthers.

I expect the Colts and Texans to not be showing up at all to Levis and Richardson pro days.

The Panthers meant it when they said they wanted to control the draft, and they are doing it one pro day at a time.

I expect the Panthers to get the #2, #12, #33, and 2024 2nd round pick from the Texans in exchange for Young.

Before Levis' pro day, I expect the Panthers to have an agreement made with the Colts for the #4, #35, TE Jelani Woods, and 2024 1st round pick from the Colts in exchange for position for Stroud. Also, the Colts will agree to not show up to the pro days for Levis and Richardson.

At this point, the Panthers line up the Seahawks, Lions, and Raiders for the position to get their QB. One of them will give up picks to jump to the #4 spot for their pick of QB. I believe it will be the Lions wanting to jump the Seahawks for Richardson. Lions give up their #6, #18, 2024 2nd round pick, and 2024 5th round pick.

The Panthers arrange a deal with Raiders to move up to 6 and take Will Levis contingent on the Seahawks passing on Levis. Raiders give up #7, #38, 2024 1st round and 2024 4th round.

Panthers trade #18 and a 2024 1st round pick for Lamar Jackson.

Panthers turn #9, #61, 2024 1st round, 2025 2nd round, and DJ Moore into...

Panthers have #7, #12, #33, #35, #38, #39, QB Lamar Jackson, TE Jelani Woods, 2024 1st round pick, 2x 2024 2nd round pick, 2024 4th round pick, and 2024 5th round pick.

Panthers draft DT/DE Jalen Carter, WR Quentin Johnston, EDGE Nolan Smith, NT/DT Siaki Ika, NT/DT Mazi Smith, RB Israel Abanikanda, TE Zach Kuntz, RB Chase Brown, WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton, and DB Cory Trice Jr with their 10 draft picks.

QB-Lamar Jackson/Andy Dalton

RB-Miles Sanders/Israel Abanikanda/Chase Brown

TE-Hayden Hurst/Jelani Woods/Zach Kuntz/Tommy Tremble

WR-Quentin Johnston/Adam Thielen/Terrace Marshall Jr/Bryce Ford-Wheaton/Laviska Shenault

OL-Bradley Bozeman/Taylor Moton/Austin Corbett/Ikem Ekwonu/Brady Christensen

DL-Derrick Brown/Siaki Ika/Mazi Smith/Jalen Carter

EDGE-Brian Burns/Nolan Smith

ILB-Jeremy Chinn/Shaq Thompson/Frankie Luvu

CB-Jaycee Horn/CJ Henderson/Cory Trice Jr/Donte Jackson

S-Vonn Bell/Xavier Woods

 

Not exactly what I would want, believe are the best players in the draft, or believe will be the best in the NFL. This is what I believe Reich/Fitterer/Tepper will want to achieve going in to the 2023 season. Let's see it play out. Tepper is going to take the entire NFL for a wild ride in the draft just like he has with this coaching staff. It doesn't stop with trading up for the #1 pick and simply drafting a QB.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

4 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

This tells me that Houston knows they are getting Bryce Young at #1.

Carolina agrees to trade the #1 pick to the Texans as long as the Texans do what they want. They have agreed to compensation and that the Texans will not pursue Stroud.

Now, the Panthers set their targets on convincing the Colts to trade up for Stroud. So, an army shows up for the Panthers and no one shows up for the Texans. What does this tell the Colts? It tells them that they are not getting Young and if they want Stroud, they need to agree to a deal with the Panthers.

I expect the Colts and Texans to not be showing up at all to Levis and Richardson pro days.

The Panthers meant it when they said they wanted to control the draft, and they are doing it one pro day at a time.

I expect the Panthers to get the #2, #12, #33, and 2024 2nd round pick from the Texans in exchange for Young.

Before Levis' pro day, I expect the Panthers to have an agreement made with the Colts for the #4, #35, TE Jelani Woods, and 2024 1st round pick from the Colts in exchange for position for Stroud. Also, the Colts will agree to not show up to the pro days for Levis and Richardson.

At this point, the Panthers line up the Seahawks, Lions, and Raiders for the position to get their QB. One of them will give up picks to jump to the #4 spot for their pick of QB. I believe it will be the Lions wanting to jump the Seahawks for Richardson. Lions give up their #6, #18, 2024 2nd round pick, and 2024 5th round pick.

The Panthers arrange a deal with Raiders to move up to 6 and take Will Levis contingent on the Seahawks passing on Levis. Raiders give up #7, #38, 2024 1st round and 2024 4th round.

Panthers trade #18 and a 2024 1st round pick for Lamar Jackson.

Panthers turn #9, #61, 2024 1st round, 2025 2nd round, and DJ Moore into...

Panthers have #7, #12, #33, #35, #38, #39, QB Lamar Jackson, TE Jelani Woods, 2024 1st round pick, 2x 2024 2nd round pick, 2024 4th round pick, and 2024 5th round pick.

Panthers draft DT/DE Jalen Carter, WR Quentin Johnston, EDGE Nolan Smith, NT/DT Siaki Ika, NT/DT Mazi Smith, RB Israel Abanikanda, TE Zach Kuntz, RB Chase Brown, WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton, and DB Cory Trice Jr with their 10 draft picks.

QB-Lamar Jackson/Andy Dalton

RB-Miles Sanders/Israel Abanikanda/Chase Brown

TE-Hayden Hurst/Jelani Woods/Zach Kuntz/Tommy Tremble

WR-Quentin Johnston/Adam Thielen/Terrace Marshall Jr/Bryce Ford-Wheaton/Laviska Shenault

OL-Bradley Bozeman/Taylor Moton/Austin Corbett/Ikem Ekwonu/Brady Christensen

DL-Derrick Brown/Siaki Ika/Mazi Smith/Jalen Carter

EDGE-Brian Burns/Nolan Smith

ILB-Jeremy Chinn/Shaq Thompson/Frankie Luvu

CB-Jaycee Horn/CJ Henderson/Cory Trice Jr/Donte Jackson

S-Vonn Bell/Xavier Woods

 

Not exactly what I would want, believe are the best players in the draft, or believe will be the best in the NFL. This is what I believe Reich/Fitterer/Tepper will want to achieve going in to the 2023 season. Let's see it play out. Tepper is going to take the entire NFL for a wild ride in the draft just like he has with this coaching staff. It doesn't stop with trading up for the #1 pick and simply drafting a QB.

Edited March 23, 2023 by The NFL Shield At Midfield