Natalie Miller (aka Verge): per her sources, Panthers moved up to #1 to take Bryce Young

[ickmule]

13 hours ago, Jackofalltrades said:

Stroud is a physical marvel, much like Cam, but a better passer. Threat to run with the ball in his hands but prefers to throw, has elite arm strength and ideal height. 

All the reasons I will be disappointed if he is not the pick. 

[Verge]

3 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

EVERYONE on this board gets flack at one point or another. Don't treat her like some fragile woman. Jesus. She can speak up for herself.

I mostly just put people on ignore unless they start straight up harassing me like one other dude on this forum.

[Verge]

I think calling Stroud a 'physical marvel' is a very big stretch lol

[csx]

Yeah I like Stroud I think but there is nothing to back that up.

He doesn't have elite arm or ideak height and I've not seen anybody suggesting that's what his strengths are other Ryan whoever above said that. None  of that is Strouds appeal 

Edited March 22, 2023 by csx

[rodeo]

3 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

EVERYONE on this board gets flack at one point or another. Don't treat her like some fragile woman. Jesus. She can speak up for herself.

you're smart enough to know there's a difference between flack and criticism and straight up insults, which have always received a warning or time-out on the Huddle.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

4 minutes ago, rodeo said:

you're smart enough to know there's a difference between flack and criticism and straight up insults, which have always received a warning or time-out on the Huddle.

Well yeah ... my point is we shouldn't go easy on Verge just because she's female. We're allowed to say her sources might be BS and her past info has led to nothing.

Anything with ill will toward her, well yes ... time-outs or bans. That's your job. Or Linville's.

[Mr. Scot]

Also worth noting...

Albert Breer is well known for this. It's a big reason why he gets so much behind the scenes info.

[Evil Hurney]

22 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

Young is not throwing this week. He is throwing at Alabama's 2nd pro day in April. Some have speculated that he is still recovering from an injury, but not sure that is legit. Perhaps he just wants to make sure he has the last impression. 

Since when do colleges have more than 1 pro day ?!?!

[Jaxel]

Besides one guy, just about everyone is reporting Young throwing on Thursday.

[csx]

7 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

Since when do colleges have more than 1 pro day ?!?!

 

 

Clemson has a separate one for Miles Murphy.  No idea

[amcoolio]

1 hour ago, csx said:

Yeah I like Stroud I think but there is nothing to back that up.

He doesn't have elite arm or ideak height and I've not seen anybody suggesting that's what his strengths are other Ryan whoever above said that. None  of that is Strouds appeal 

I would say Stroud has an elite arm.

Again, he plays a lot like Dak Prescott. In the next month he needs to prove he can move around outside the pocket and still connect with dead-on accuracy to be the pick... I do believe the Panthers are seriously considering Young as the best prospect because of his elite out of the pocket ability, which is one of the things that translates into superstardom in the NFL.

That said, Stroud is still a good #1 pick because of his elite ball placement and throw velocity. I think we can win with either.

[csx]

7 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I would say Stroud has an elite arm.

Again, he plays a lot like Dak Prescott. In the next month he needs to prove he can move around outside the pocket and still connect with dead-on accuracy to be the pick... I do believe the Panthers are seriously considering Young as the best prospect because of his elite out of the pocket ability, which is one of the things that translates into superstardom in the NFL.

That said, Stroud is still a good #1 pick because of his elite ball placement and throw velocity. I think we can win with either.

He arguably has elite accuracy. Pretty much every single analysis says good but not elite arm strength..

 

I'm an not knocking Stroud. He is my preference. I'm just pointing out that the poster seemed to be exaggerating Stroud beyond what anybody else is saying. 6'3 is good height. It's not ideal. 

Edited March 22, 2023 by csx

[top dawg]

41 minutes ago, csx said:

He arguably has elite accuracy. Pretty much every single analysis says good but not elite arm strength..

 

I'm an not knocking Stroud. He is my preference. I'm just pointing out that the poster seemed to be exaggerating Stroud beyond what anybody else is saying. 6'3 is good height. It's not ideal. 

Well, what's ideal? Taller doesn't necessarily mean better, it could just mean "statue!"

Pat Mahomes is 6'2". So is Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson. Burrow is 6'4", Hurts is 6'1". I mean, "ideal" surely seems subjective. Brady is 6'4", Peyton Manning is 6'5", Montana is 6'2, Elway is 6'3", Favre is 6'2", Bradshaw is 6'3", Marino is 6'4, Warner is 6'2, and Dan Fouts was 6'3.  I would say 6'3" is as ideal a height as any.

Edited March 22, 2023 by top dawg

[csx]

5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Well, what's ideal? Taller doesn't necessarily mean better, it could just mean "statue!"

Pat Mahomes is 6'2". So is Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson. Jalen Hurts is 6'1". I mean, "ideal" surely seems subjective. Brady is 6'4", Peyton Manning is 6'5", Joe Montana is 6'2, Joe John Elway is 6'3", Brett Favre is 6'2", Bradshaw is 6'3", Marino is 6'4, Warner is 6'2, and Dan Fouts was 6'3.  I would say 6'3" is as ideal a height as any.

Median height was 6'4" a few years ago.